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03 October 2013

WHY THE GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN?!?!?!?!?!

IT is really amazing when Rep peter king r NY sounds reasonable.......video at the bottom of this post......



Published on Sep 26, 2013
"Congressman Peter King has been one of the strongest Republican voices opposing Ted Cruz's fight against Obamacare, frequently calling him a "fraud." On CNN Wednesday night, King continued hammering Cruz, telling Anderson Cooper that despite how much Cruz may view himself as a conservative "folk hero" the majority of the country is rallying behind, "those I've spoken to think he's crazy." King likened this to the Charge of the Light Brigade and said Cruz is a "kamikaze pilot," ultimately finding his tactics to be destructive to the Republican party. He continued to call Cruz a fraud...".* Desi Doyen (Green News Report) and comedian Jimmy Dore (The Jimmy Dore Show) break it down on The Young Turks.

*Read more here from Josh Feldman / Mediaite:http://www.mediaite.com/tv/rep-peter-...


10 March 2011

As King Targets Muslims, There Have Been Almost Twice As Many Plots Since 9/11 From Non-Muslim Terrorists 9MAR11

THE hearings are going on now, and the prejudiced and ignorant will use them to bolster their prejudice and ignorance, and more in the world will look at us with anger and hate, but most in the world will look at us in pity and wonder what happened to America, land of the free and home of the brave? From ThinkProgress...
Tomorrow, Rep. Peter King (R-NY), chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, will hold hearings singling out the Muslim American community for supposedly aiding and abetting domestic radicalization and terrorism.
When asked why he is singling out the Muslim American community and refusing to investigate other forms of terrorism, King has responded by saying that “it makes no sense to talk about other types of extremism, when the main threat to the United States today is talking about al Qaida.”
Yet as a January 2011 terrorism statistics report — compiled using publicly available data from the FBI and other crime agencies — from the Muslim Public Affairs Council (MPAC) shows, terrorism by Muslim Americans has only accounted for a minority of terror plots since 9/11. Since the attacks on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, Muslims have been involved in 45 domestic terrorist plots. Meanwhile, non-Muslims have been involved in 80 terrorist plots.
In fact, right-wing extremist and white supremacist attacks plots alone outnumber plots by Muslims, with both groups being involved in 63 terror plots, 18 more plots than Muslim Americans have been involved in. Here is a breakdown of attacks by group, along with a few examples of plots by some of these groups:
Anti-Government/Anti-Tax Extremists: There have been 36 plots by right-wing extremists since 9/11. These attacks include Joseph Stack’s suicide attack on a Texas IRS building and Joshua Cartwright, who became enraged after the election of Barack Obama and “believed that the US Government was conspiring against him.”
KKK/NeoNazi/White Supremacist: There have been 27 plots by white supremacists since 9/11. These attacks include a 2004 letter bombing of the Arizona Office of Diversity and Dialogue that injured three employees.
Unknown/Miscellaneous: There were five attacks that federal crime officials did not categorize.
Christian Extremists/Anti-Abortion: There were three attacks by anti-abortion extremists and Christian extremists. The killing of abortion provider George Tiller is the most prominent of these attacks.
Black Supremacist Cults: There were two plots by black supremacist cults.
Jewish Extremists: There were two plots by Jewish extremists. The most prominent of these was a plot by Robert Goldstein to attack a local Islamic center with home made C4 and other explosives.
Extreme Anti-Immigrant: There were two plots by anti-immigrant extremists. One of these was the attack by Shawn Forde, who murdered a Queens deli clerk and was motivated by racist and anti-immigrant feelings.
Anti-Jewish: There was one plot by an anti-Semitic extremist. Norman Leboon made anti-Semitic threats against Rep. Eric Cantor (R-VA).
Anarchist: There was a single plot by an anarchist. Joseph D. Konopka “wreaked havoc in 13 counties by setting fires, disrupting radio and television broadcasts, disabling an air traffic control system, selling counterfeit software, and damaging the computer system of an Internet service provider.”
Given the fact that non-Muslim terrorists account for almost twice as many plots as Muslim terrorists in the United States since 9/11, King’s justification that he is targeting Muslims because they represent the primary threat seems hollow. Additionally, King’s hearings come at a time when Muslim American terrorism and involvement in extremism has actually plummeted in the past couple years, according to a Duke University study put out last month. Moreover, nearly 4 in 10 Al-Qaida related plots in the United States have been broken up thanks to intelligence provided by the Muslim community themselves and 70 percent of recent terror plots in the United States have been foiled by help from Muslim Americans.
Update On the eve of King's hearings, authorities have named a white supremacist as the suspect in the case of an attempted bombing of an MLK rally in Spokane, Washington.

03 March 2011

Stop Congress' New McCarthy Witch Hunt from HUMAN RIGHTS FIRST 3MAR11

THE Muslim community in America doesn't scare me but right wing fanatics like rep peter king r NY do. His witch hunt is disgusting and all Americans should be offended by it, and we have seen this before in this country with the internment of hundreds of thousands on Americans of Japanese ancestry and persecution of and discrimination against Americans of German and Italian ancestry during WWII. My own grandfather, from Germany, was investigated, neighbors and his German Jewish immigrant employer had to vouch for him that he was no nazi. Please click the link to participate in this letter campaign from Human Rights First to Congress objecting to rep king's planned hearings.....



The New McCarthy
Peter King the new McCarthy
Congress is preparing McCarthyism 2.0.
Rep. Peter King, the Chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee—the person in Congress who is in charge of our safety at home—plans to hold hearings next week about the threat we face from our fellow Americans. 
Write your Representatives today to urge that facts, not fear, drive the upcoming hearings on the "radicalization" of American Muslims.
Rep. King has said that 80% of religious leaders in mosques are radicalized. Not true. He has said that American Muslims do not cooperate with law enforcement. The police and FBI disagree.
What counter terrorism experts tell us is that alienating and isolating communities makes us less secure.  Focusing on groups of people, not on indicators of threats, makes us less safe. They tell us that radical clerics tell the world that America is at war with Islam, and Rep. Peter King is playing right into their hands.
General David Petraeus, U.S. Commander in Afghanistan, said that vilifying American Muslims and burning Korans could "endanger troops and it could endanger the overall effort here.... [I]n fact, images from such activity could very well be used by extremists here and around the world."
We need to make sure that our national security experts are not trumped by the politics of fear. Help us by writing your representatives today.
President Barak Obama said, "I've got Muslims who are fighting in Afghanistan in the uniform of the United States Armed Services. They're out there putting their lives on the line for us. And we've got to make sure that we are crystal clear, for our sakes and their sakes, they are Americans and we honor their service. And part of honoring their service is making sure that they understand that we don't differentiate between them and us. It's just us."
Help us stand united.  Say no to the new McCarthyism.
Sincerely,
C. Dixon Osburn
Director, Law and Security Program

19 November 2010

FACTS ON TRYING TERROR SUSPECTS IN FEDERAL COURT & TRY KHALID SHEIKH MOHAMMED IN FED DISTRICT COURT from HRF 18NOV10

REP peter king r NY is a cowardly, loud-mouthed hypocrite. He is playing the fear and paranoia game for his own political gain, and he should be ashamed as a member of the U.S. House of Representatives for casting doubt on the effectiveness of the U.S. justice system when his pronouncements have NO factual basis.....see the fact sheet on the federal court system trials of terrorist for the truth, and proof our justice system does work. From Human Rights First...


Watch Retired Generals and Admirals Speak Out:
Try Khalid Sheikh Mohammed in Federal District Court

Yesterday, once again, a federal court convicted a terrorism suspect.
A federal court in New York convicted Guantanamo detainee, Ahmed Ghailani, of plotting to blow up U.S. embassies in Africa. He will spend a minimum of 20 years – and likely much longer – in prison. And Americans can be proud of the fact that he was convicted according to law. This conviction adds to the federal criminal justice system's track record of success in international terrorism cases. The facts are clear: Since 9/11, our federal courts have convicted more than 400 terrorists. Military commissions have only convicted five, two of whom have already been released.
We've been waiting for over nine years. It's about time that we bring 9/11 terrorist Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and the rest of the Guantanamo detainees to face justice in federal court.
It's time for President Obama to demonstrate leadership and move forward with trials, not bow to political opposition. Our justice system is strong and effective. We have the tools that we need to convict KSM and try the rest of the Guantanamo detainees. We need to use them.
Tell President Obama: Bring Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and other suspected terrorists to justice in federal district court.
Many of our nations' retired generals and admirals have spoken out. Keeping terror suspects at Guantanamo and granting them military trials sends the wrong message. KSM isn't a warrior, he's a criminal. Let's try terrorism suspects where we try criminals: in civilian court.
Sincerely,
C. Dixon Osburn

Human Rights First,
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FACT SHEET
Trying Terror Suspects in Federal Courts

Federal civilian criminal courts have convicted 400 terrorists since 9/11.1 Military commissions have convicted only five.2 Federal court convictions include convictions resulting from investigations of terrorist acts and of criminal acts by those with an identified link to international terrorism.

55 federal district courts in 36 states have successfully convicted terrorists since 9/11. The 400 terrorist convictions were the result of trials in 55 different US district courts; 27 cases were in the Southern District of New York.3

Federal courts have more tools to try terrorists than military commissions. Federal courts, unlike military commissions, can try terrorists for offenses such as those involving fraud, immigration, firearms, and drugs. In addition, convictions for crimes of conspiracy and material support before a military commission rather than a federal court face a greater likelihood of being overturned on appeal because those crimes were not generally considered war crimes before the Military Commissions Act.

Federal prisons hold more than 300 convicted terrorists. None has ever escaped. 4 Of the 5 GTMO convicted detainees, only 3 remain in prison. The American Correctional Association said, “Corrections and law-enforcement professionals in the United States are second to none. We want to assure all Americans that the public will be safe from harm and that the terrorists will be properly and effectively detained -- whether in Cuba or in a single facility or multiple facilities across the United States.”5

Federal courts have repeatedly imposed stiff sentences on convicted terrorists. The Sentencing Guidelines, §3A1.4, provides for increased sentencing for defendants convicted of a crime that “involved, or was intended to promote, a federal crime of terrorism.” US courts have imposed severe sentences on convicted terrorists.6

Prosecuting terror suspects before military commissions makes them look like warriors rather than common criminals. Those who argue that terror suspects should be tried before military commissions because they do not deserve our regular courts miss the mark. As Judge William Young said when sentencing Shoe Bomber Richard Reid, “You’re no warrior…. You are a terrorist. A species of criminal guilty of multiple attempted murders.”7
1 http://jurist.law.pitt.edu/paperchase/2010/03/doj-releases-details-on-400-convicted.php; http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/05/AR2010100505683.html
2 http://www.reuters.com/article/newsMaps/idUSTRE50A2JR20090111, http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/2008/10/27/an-empty-trial-at-guantanamo/, http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iSnYtLdPe0aYIsxWJFTIO0hjBYjwD9GQFHCO0, http://articles.latimes.com/2010/oct/26/world/la-fg-gitmo-plea-20101026
3 http://www.justice.gov/cjs/docs/terrorism-convictions-statistics.pdf
4 http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pr/2009/June/09-ag-564.html
5 http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/other-views/story/1385750.html
6 http://www.humanrightsfirst.org/pdf/090723-LS-in-pursuit-justice-09-update.pdf
7 Statement by Judge William Young, U.S. District Court on Sentencing of Shoe Bomber Richard Reid.
FACT SHEET

Military commissions fail to meet U.S. constitutional and international law fair trial standards. While the newly constituted military commission rules provide some needed reforms, such as prohibiting the admission of evidence obtained by cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment, some serious flaws remain. For instance, the bill:

Continues to permit the admission of coerced testimony obtained at the point of capture or during closely related active combat engagement.

Includes an overbroad definition of who can be tried before military commissions, one that extends trials in this forum to juveniles and those not even engaged in hostilities.

Permits defendants to be tried ex-post facto for conduct not considered to constitute a war crime at the time it was committed.

Miranda is an effective law enforcement tool that provides valuable information. FBI and local law enforcement know how to interrogate suspects. Though some decried their reading Miranda rights to the Christmas day bomber, interrogators obtained critical information after doing so. The Miranda requirement does not prevent intelligence professionals from interrogating prisoners, and recent court decisions have recognized exceptions to the Miranda requirement including the foreign law enforcement interrogations exception and the “public safety” exception to Miranda that would likely apply to statements made on the battlefield.8

Federal courts are expert at protecting classified information. The rules for military commissions governing classified information are modeled after the federal court rules. Military commission judges have little experience applying those rules, unlike federal court judges.

Our Constitution applies to citizens and foreigners alike in the U.S. criminal justice system. It is well-established in the Constitution and by Supreme Court precedent9 that, as James Madison said, “[I]t does not follow, because aliens are not parties to the Constitution…they have no rights to its protection…. [A]s they owe…a temporary obedience [to the Constitution], they are entitled in return to their protection….” 10
8 http://www.humanrightsfirst.org/pdf/090723-LS-in-pursuit-justice-09-update.pdf
9 See Boumediene v. Bush, 126 S. Ct. 2229, 2246 (2008); Yick Wo v. Hopkins, 118 U.S. 356, 369 (U.S. 1886).
10 James Madison, Mr. Madison’s Report on the Virginia Resolutions (1799)
 http://www.humanrightsfirst.org/pdf/Trying_Terror_Suspects_in_Federal_Court.pdf

03 September 2010

Hagel Says GOP Is Not ‘Presenting Any Alternatives, Any New Options Or Any New Thinking’ & Poll: 71 Percent Of Americans Still Blame Bush For The Current Economic Woes

MOST often a sane voice of opposition, one that I often disagreed with but respected because of his honesty and civility, former Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-NE) is missed in Washington. Here he offers his opinion on the current state and attitude of the republican party, the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and the economy (and the lack of republican plans to deal with any of these problems realistically). The Washington Diplomat interview follows this piece from ThinkProgress and the poll from USA Today is last.

 
Former Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-NE), the chairman of the Atlantic Council, recently sat down for an interview with the Washington Diplomat. In the interview, the former senator touched on a variety of topics, including what he feels is the need for the United States to “unwind” from the war in Afghanistan. Towards the end of the interview, Hagel says that while he has “no plans to renounce his membership in the party,” he finds that the Republican Party of which he is a part is not “presenting any new alternatives, any new options, or any new thinking“:
“I don’t see them presenting any alternatives, any new options or any new thinking,” Hagel said. “If the Republicans get back in power, what are they going to do? There is no articulation. It’s just a ‘no no no, I’m against Obama because he’s a socialist and he’s taking America in the wrong direction.’ That’s certainly an opinion, but what about you, Mr. Republican? What would you do?”
In fact, leading Republicans like Sarah Palin, Bobby Jindal, and Peter King have proudly embraced the “no, no, no” agenda. Hagel told the interviewer that he remains confident that his party will once again rebuild itself. “The Republican Party will find a new center of gravity,” he said. “I think they’ll let this nonsense play out. It’s like a bad storm — it just has to go through.”

Hagel May Have Left Senate Behind,
But Not His Candor About Politics

http://www.washdiplomat.com/September%202010/a1_09_10.html

by Michael Coleman


During two terms in the U.S. Senate, Chuck Hagel earned a reputation for candor. Whether warning about the dangers of invading Iraq or questioning the political priorities of fellow Republicans, the plainspoken Nebraskan called it like he saw it — often to the deep dismay of American conservatives.

Today, nearly two years after making good on his pledge to retire after two Senate terms and deciding against a presidential run, Hagel is still challenging conventional wisdom in Washington. But unlike his final two years in the Senate, where he was marginalized within his own political party, at the moment Hagel seems to be doing just fine outside the congressional arena. He remains an important power player and influential Republican who is respected by many Democrats and moderates — all of which means that his political future is still very wide open.

Hagel has also kept himself in the Beltway loop since leaving the Senate. As co-chairman of President Obama’s Intelligence Advisory Board, he maintains an important connection to the White House. As chairman of the Atlantic Council, he has a perch to project ideas to Washington’s intellectual elite. As a member of the Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board and the energy secretary’s Blue Ribbon Commission on America’s Nuclear Future, he continues to advise on key policy matters. And as a professor at the Georgetown University School of Foreign Service, Hagel has the ability to mold the minds of the nation’s next leading diplomats.

During an expansive 90-minute interview in his modest office at Georgetown, the former senator said he’s adjusting well to life outside the world’s most prestigious club.

“It’s been a wonderful experience for me,” said Hagel, looking fit and relaxed in slacks and an open-collar dress shirt. “To have an opportunity to be associated with an institution like Georgetown and these bright young people who care about the future of the world — and to maybe contribute something based on my experience in life — it’s renewing and it’s refreshing.”

Hagel may find comfort in the ivory tower and prestigious think tank and presidential posts, but the decorated Vietnam veteran is still sore about the wars Iraq and Afghanistan. He’s deeply dismayed about the beleaguered state of the U.S. military, and he’s pretty much disgusted with the state of the Republican Party — and its potential candidates for president in 2012.

“I think we’re in a mess in Afghanistan and I think we’re in a mess in Iraq,” said Hagel, who voted in support of the war in Iraq based on the intelligence assessments and later admitted he regretted his vote. “Our military has been more valiant and done a better job than we could have ever hoped. But we have put the military in an impossible situation.”

Hagel flatly rejects the notion — now conventional wisdom among many Americans — that the war in Iraq has been a success. “Did you see today’s paper?” he asked, holding up a front-page story in the Washington Post that described vast swaths of the country as being plagued by electricity outages.

“Look at the facts: No government, less electricity and people want us out,” Hagel pointed out. “Anyway you measure Iraq today I think you’re pretty hard pressed to find how people are better off than they were before we invaded. I think history is going to be very harsh in its judgment — very, very harsh. And I think we’re headed for a similar outcome in Afghanistan if we don’t do some things differently.”

He stands by his assessment, outlined in his 2008 book “America: Our Next Chapter,” that the invasion of Iraq is the worst American foreign policy blunder since Vietnam, and one of the five worst in U.S. history.

Hagel said the United States “made a terrible mistake taking our eye of the ball in Afghanistan when we invaded Iraq.” Now, he argues that the United States is doing in Afghanistan exactly what George W. Bush famously warned against during his 2000 presidential campaign: nation building.

“We are where we are today — going into our 10th year in Afghanistan, our longest war — because we did take our eye of the ball,” he said. “It’s becoming clearer and clearer. We really made some big mistakes during that time. I have never believed you can go into any country and nation build, and unfortunately I think that’s what we’ve gotten ourselves bogged down in.

“You can dance around that issue any way you like, but the fact is that there are billions and billions of dollars we’ve spent and are still spending, over 100,000 troops, and all the assistance we’ve got going in there,” Hagel continued. “It’s nation building. We should not nation build. It will always end in disaster.”

He argues that the original aim of defeating the Taliban in Afghanistan — a group that the United States essentially “invented” during the Soviet-Afghan conflict in the 1970s — has morphed into something more complex. The U.S. is now building roads and schools, working to establish an Afghan government, and trying to negotiate peace among political factions that have been warring for centuries.

“We became completely disoriented from our original focus,” Hagel charged. “That problem in Afghanistan isn’t going to be solved with 100,000 American troops.”

It’s no surprise then that the former Senator believes it’s time for the United States to aggressively “unwind” in both Iraq and Afghanistan.

“We’re sinking down further and further into the bog,” he lamented. “We’re going to have to unwind this because politically it’s not sustainable in the United States.”

Leaning forward and tapping his desk for emphasis, Hagel also noted that the prevailing pubic discussion about Iraq and Afghanistan in America sidesteps a potentially scarier problem — a nuclear-armed and politically unstable Pakistan.

“It’s the most combustible area of the world,” Hagel, a former senior member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, explained. “You’ve got three nuclear powers [China, India and Pakistan] that all come together at the same border and on the other side you’ve got Afghanistan and Iran. The worst thing we can do is continue to stay bogged down in those areas where we continue to undermine our own objectives.”

Asked about Iran, Hagel said he agrees with Obama that talking to your enemies is not akin to weakness. Republicans have ridiculed Hagel for this diplomatic viewpoint.

“I’ve been called the senator from France and all this stuff,” he said with a dismissive wave of his hand. “But I’ve never thought that engagement was appeasement.

“I’ve always found that engagement is critically important to statecraft,” he added. “That doesn’t mean that engagement is giving things away or appeasement. Engagement is a long way away from negotiation. But it will allow you some time and give you some high ground, some optics, some support worldwide and a dimension to try to assess things from as close to the scene as you can.

“We say, ‘We’ll show you — we’re not going to talk to you. We’ll penalize you,’” he continued. “Well, it really doesn’t penalize anybody but us because we can’t make good judgments on just what we think. We have to engage.”


Yet as America’s collective attention fades from conflicts overseas and focuses on dire economic problems at home, Hagel predicted more pain for a U.S. military already stretched to the breaking point.

“The consequences of the blunder we made and the extenuation of the disaster in Afghanistan is going to play out in a number of ways that will affect our country,” he said. “Start with the Pentagon. Does anybody not think that these two wars have ground our people down? Our generals are saying it — record divorces, record suicides, not to mention the equipment — anyway you calibrate it. Quite frankly, I think there has been so much damage done to the infrastructure of our military and our force structure that it’s going to take a generation to build back.”

He pointedly added: “You can’t run people like machines  — even machines break down.”

Speaking of breakdowns, Hagel said the Republican Party — of which he remains a member — is in the midst of a severe identity crisis, if not a total meltdown.

Hagel said he became a Republican standing on the edge of a rice paddy in the Mekong Delta during the Vietnam War when he voted for Richard Nixon for president, and followed that choice with Republican selections straight down the ticket. At the time, he said the Republican Party stood for fiscal conservatism and engagement with the world at large. Now, he’s not so sure what it stands for. That’s why he decided against running for president in 2008, even though some moderate Republicans — and more than a few Democrats — encouraged him to run.

“I was out of touch with the Republican Party,” Hagel told The Diplomat. “There was no way I could have run in a Republican primary and had any hope of representing the Republican Party. I wouldn’t disconnect from my beliefs. I would have been wasting the party’s time, voters’ time, my time — at least that’s what I thought a couple of years ago. The current leadership of the Republican Party is just not one I identify with.”

To that end, rumors have swirled ever since Hagel left the Senate as to whether he would take a position in the Obama administration — Beltway chatter that continues today.

Speculating on who might be the next secretary of defense, Josh Rogin described Hagel — “always the bridesmaid” — as a possible candidate in his blog “The Cable” for Foreign Policy. “The Obama administration has been trying to give Hagel a prime posting for a while. He’s reported to have turned down several sweet offers, including ambassador to China and director of national intelligence,” Rogin wrote of his potential to serve as defense secretary. “In Hagel’s favor, he’s a Republican who won’t bend to the GOP talking points of the moment and he’s high-profile enough to fill the chair. The fear is that his independence and his penchant for veering off message in a Biden-esque way make him too risky to entrust with such a prominent perch. Moreover, if Obama chooses another Republican to lead DoD, many will begin to question whether the Democratic national-security bench is too thin or if Obama is wary of putting someone in his own party in charge of the wars.”

For now, however, Hagel remains an anti-abortion, pro-business, pro-gun Republican. Nevertheless, he makes no effort to hide his disdain for the current crop of potential presidential contenders, especially those (he’s looking at you Sarah Palin) whom he accuses of championing a dumbed-down, “Hee Haw” articulation of American values.

But Hagel has no plans to renounce his membership in the party and says he remains confident it can “come back to its senses.”

“The Republican Party will find a new center of gravity,” he predicted. “I think they’ll let this nonsense play out. It’s like a bad storm — it just has to go through.”

In the meantime, he’d like to see new ideas instead of predictable opposition among the conservative congressional ranks and think tanks.

“I don’t see them presenting any alternatives, any new options or any new thinking,” Hagel said. “If the Republicans get back in power, what are they going to do? There is no articulation. It’s just a ‘no no no, I’m against Obama because he’s a socialist and he’s taking America in the wrong direction.’ That’s certainly an opinion, but what about you, Mr. Republican? What would you do?”

Michael Coleman is a contributing writer for The Washington Diplomat.


MEANWHILE THIS LATEST POLL

Poll: 71 Percent Of Americans Still Blame Bush For The Current Economic Woes 

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/09/03/most-blame-bush-economy/

BushBowTie21In recent weeks, former White House adviser Karl Rove has been strongly advising President Obama to not blame President Bush for the current economic troubles, writing in his Wall Street Journal column, “it won’t work.” “For Mr. Obama and his party, all the escape hatches are shutting at the same time. Blaming Bush and harping on the GOP’s driving abilities is not a good strategy,” Rove continued. While the sincerity of any piece of counsel Rove offers to his political rivals should be suspect, especially when that prescription would help rehabilitate his own image, Rove’s latest bit of unsolicited advice also appears to be wrong. According to a new USA Today/Gallup Poll, over two-thirds of Americans still blame Bush for the economy’s woes:
The 71% saying Bush should get blamed was a modest decline from the 80% who felt that way about a year ago, in July 2009. [...]
In the July 2009 poll, a third, 32%, said [Obama] should shoulder a great deal or moderate amount of the blame. That percentage has risen — no surprise, given that he’s been in office for 20 months. Now almost half, 48%, do. But 51% say he’s dealing with problems he inherited, not created, saying he deserves not much or none of the responsibility for economic problems that include high unemployment and a faltering housing market.
There was, predictably, a yawning partisan divide on the question. Republicans by 4-1, 44%-10%, were more likely to give Obama a great deal of the blame than Bush. Democrats by more than 20-1 targeted Bush: They said the former president bore a great deal of the blame; just 3% said that of the current one.
Indeed, as much as Bush advisers try to resurrect the legacy of their former boss, other polls have shown Americans really don’t miss Bush, while a recent survey of 238 presidential scholars rated Bush as the worst president of the modern era and among the bottom five of all time.