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Showing posts with label 2012 Presidential debates. Show all posts

10 October 2012

Ann Romney Compares Obama to a Petulant Child for Calling Out Husband's Lies in Debate 9OKT12

QUEEN ANN is such a Schlempe! If she doesn't like her husband being called a liar maybe she should tell him to quit lying!!!! From Crooks&Liars...

They just can't stop themselves from completely disrespecting this President, can they? Here's Queen Ann on Fox News in an interview which will air in full Wednesday, calling the President of the United States a child because his campaign has dared to call out her husband for lying his ass off during the debate last week. Way to keep it classy.
So much for Willard saying his wife's views were not "terribly relevant" to his campaign. She's been inserting herself more and more as time has gone on, without terribly wonderful results as we saw again here. She's just as much of a nasty piece of work as her husband, if not worse.
Ann Romney accuses Obama of showing 'poor sportsmanship' :
Mitt Romney's wife, Ann, equated President Obama's campaign to a petulant child during an interview Tuesday after being asked about charges from the president's campaign that her husband had "lied" during last week's debate.
“I mean, lied about what? This is something he’s been saying all along. This is what he believes. This is his policy, these are his statements," Ann Romney said in an interview set to air Wednesday on Fox News. "I mean, lie — it’s sort of like someone that’s, you know, in the sandbox that like lost the game and they’re just going to kick sand in someone’s face and say, ‘you liar.’ I mean, it’s like they lost, and so now they just are going to say, OK, the game, we didn’t like the game. So to me, it’s poor sportsmanship.”
In an interview Sunday with CBS News, Obama adviser David Axelrod said Romney's debate positions were "uprooted" from what he had said on the campaign trail.
"I think [the president] was a little taken aback at the brazenness with which Gov. Romney walked away from so many of the positions on which he's run, walked away from his record,” Axelrod said.
Ann Romney said she "knew right away" that her husband was winning the first presidential debate.
"I knew after the first question," she said. "I turned to my son after 50 minutes, and I gave him a nudge, and I said it’s 100 to zero right now. "
She added that she hoped his performance would attract the support of more female voters, a crucial demographic headed into Election Day and one that the president has thus far dominated.
Yeah, good luck with that. Hey Ann, if you don't want your husband called a liar, why don't you ask him to quit lying day in and day out on the campaign trail as well?
http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/ann-romney-compares-obama-petulant-child-c 

06 October 2012

Obama Campaign Does Debate Cleanup On Social Security Answer 6OKT12

IT is bad enough mitt robme romney and lyin' paul ryan are intent on destroying Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, but Pres Obama's comment about there being little difference between them on Social Security set off warning bells for Progressives who are committed to protecting and saving these programs. Here is some damage control from the Obama campaign. We Progressives will continue to support your reelection, but we also put you on notice, KEEP YOUR BUDGET CUTTING KNIVES AWAY FROM SOCIAL SECURITY, MEDICARE AND MEDICAID.
WASHINGTON -- The Obama campaign played a bit of debate cleanup on Friday night with a blog post clarifying that there are, indeed, differences between the president's and GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney's approaches to Social Security.
The post on Obama's reelection campaign site comes on the heels of Wednesday night's debate, during which the president said he didn't think that he and Romney differed on reforming the entitlement program. It also follows comments from President Barack Obama's campaign senior adviser David Axelrod -- made the day after the debate -- expressing unawareness of Romney's position on Social Security (Axelrod went after vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan's plan instead).
Progressive activists and even some top Democrats called the whole approach inexplicable. Romney offered some explicit plans to reform Social Security in his book and they were quite different from Obama's. Moreover, the decision to not use the issue as a political cudgel in such a highly watched moment -- indeed, to suggest it wasn't a campaign issue at all -- seemed like a major misstep.
And so, on Friday night, the clarification process began.
"While President Obama is committed to keeping the promise of guaranteed Social Security benefits for current and future generations, Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan have supported plans to privatize the program, and have put forward a plan that would slash benefits for current workers," the blog post read.
The post goes on to highlight "key differences between the president’s and Romney-Ryan’s approach to Social Security." Among them is a firm opposition, on the president's part, to any reforms that would privatize the program or "slash benefits for future generations." Romney, by contrast, has expressed support for optional individual retirement accounts and raising the retirement age.
"The choice is clear: President Obama will never privatize Social Security or undermine retirement security for middle-class Americans," the post concludes. "The same cannot be said for Romney."
Maybe so, but there are complicating factors here. For one, Obama did agree to change the payment rate of benefits as part of a debt-ceiling deal that he and House Speaker John Boehner nearly pulled off in August 2011. And while his campaign insists that he won't "slash" benefits, progressive reform advocates recoil at such language, arguing that it paves the way for him to back "modest" cuts. During an MSNBC interview several weeks ago, those concerns were exacerbated after Axelrod declined to detail what type of reforms Obama would pursue if reelected -- something that the Romney campaign highlighted on Saturday morning.
“Last night, the Obama campaign took its fact-checking campaign to a new height of absurdity, blaming confusion over the choice on Social Security reform on Mitt Romney," said Amanda Henneberg, a Romney campaign spokesperson. "But the truth is that if President Obama has a plan to save Social Security, he hasn’t shared it with anyone."
Policies aside, the politics are complicated too. Clearly the Obama campaign thinks it missed an opportunity during Wednesday night's debate to elucidate the differences between the two candidates on Social Security. But it's still unclear why the campaign didn't do it the next day. Indeed, waiting until Friday night to offer pushback means even fewer people will know or hear about it.
Democrats may end up relieved by the post, but they will likely want to see the president or Vice President Joe Biden make an issue of it during the subsequent debates.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/06/obama-social-security-debate_n_1945124.html?utm_source=Alert-blogger&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Email%2BNotifications

Romney Claims of Bipartisanship as Governor Face Challenge (AND WHY IS HE LOOSING MASSACHUSETTS TO PRES OBAMA???)5OKT12

ANOTHER article showing the public campaigning mitt robme romney and the governing mitt robme romnney when he ran for and was elected governor of Massachusetts. He was the public campaigning (not the 47% video) mitt robme romney at the first presidential debate Wednesday night, and if the electorate bought that romney and he is elected we are in trouble. More on  romney campaigning and after being elected at Mitt Romney's Role as Mormon Bishop Shows His Extremist Religious Beliefs 15SEP12 http://bucknacktssordidtawdryblog.blogspot.com/2012/09/mitt-romneys-role-as-mormon-bishop.html 
and at Mitt Romney Won the Debate. But Why? 4OKT12 http://bucknacktssordidtawdryblog.blogspot.com/2012/10/mitt-romney-won-debate-but-why-4okt12.html
A big fact that screams for an explanation from mitt robme romney is if he was such a great governor why is he loosing the vote in Massachusetts????? This from the New York Times.....
BOSTON — He came into office with a mandate to shake things up, an agenda laden with civics-book reforms and a raging fiscal crisis that threatened to torpedo both. He sparred with a hostile legislature and suffered a humiliating setback in the midterm elections. As four years drew to a close, his legacy was blotted by anemic job growth, sagging political popularity and — except for a landmark health care overhaul bill — a record of accomplishment that disappointed many.
That could be the Barack Obama that Mitt Romney depicted in Wednesday’s presidential debate as an ineffective and overly partisan leader. But it could also be Mitt Romney, who boasted of a stellar record as Massachusetts governor, running a state dominated by the political opposition.
Mr. Romney did score some successes beyond his health care legislation, notably joining a Democratic legislature to cut a deficit-ridden budget by $1.6 billion and revamping a troubled school building fund. Some outside experts and former aides say his administration excelled at the sorts of nuts-and-bolts efficiencies that make bureaucracies run better, like streamlining permit approvals and modernizing jobs programs.
As a Republican governor whose legislature was 87 percent Democratic, Mr. Romney said in Wednesday’s debate, “I figured out from Day 1 I had to get along, and I had to work across the aisle to get anything done.” The result, he said, was that “we drove our schools to be No. 1 in the nation. We cut taxes 19 times.”
But on closer examination, the record as governor he alluded to looks considerably less burnished than Mr. Romney suggested. Bipartisanship was in short supply; Statehouse Democrats complained he variously ignored, insulted or opposed them, with intermittent charm offensives. He vetoed scores of legislative initiatives and excised budget line items a remarkable 844 times, according to the nonpartisan research group Factcheck.org. Lawmakers reciprocated by quickly overriding the vast bulk of them. 
The big-ticket items that Mr. Romney proposed when he entered office in January 2003 went largely unrealized, and some that were achieved turned out to have a comparatively minor impact. A wholesale restructuring of state government was dead on arrival in the legislature; an ambitious overhaul of the state university system was stillborn; a consolidation of transportation fiefs never took place. 
Mr. Romney lobbied successfully to block changes in the state’s much-admired charter school program, but his own education reforms went mostly unrealized. His promise to lure new business and create jobs in a state that had been staggered by the collapse of the 2000 dot-com boom never quite bore fruit; unemployment dropped less than a percentage point during his four years, but for most of that time, much of the decline was attributed to the fact that any new jobs were being absorbed by a shrinking work force.
Mr. Romney won lawmakers’ consent to streamline a tangled health and human services bureaucracy, but the savings amounted to but $7 million a year. He entered office considering an eight-state compact to battle climate change, but left office outside the consortium, saying it cost too much.
“He put on the table in his inaugural address, and then in his budget, a series of proposed reforms like civil service reform, pension reform — going right to the heart of the lion’s den,” Michael Widmer, president of the nonpartisan Massachusetts Taxpayers Foundation, said in an interview. But excepting health care, “he never followed up. There was a handful of successes, but there was never a full-blown or focused program in the sense of saying, ‘Here’s our vision.’ ”
Mr. Romney’s former aides vigorously disagree.
  “That’s an overwrought type of critique,” said Timothy Murphy, the health and human services secretary under Mr. Romney. “If you take a look at the things the governor set out to do, we accomplished a lot. The budgets were more than balanced — we generated surpluses.”
And, he said, “We did pass the most consequential piece of health care legislation in this state in 25 years.”
Mr. Romney was pushing on an open door on the 2006 initiative — Democrats had long dreamed of providing health coverage to almost every resident.
Jane Edmonds, who headed the state’s Labor and Workforce Development agency, recounted a meeting at the start of Mr. Romney’s term in which he handed out a list of campaign promises to his staff and ordered them carried out within four years. 
“My opinion is that he delivered on almost all those promises,” she said. “We had 8 or 10 of them and we carried them all out.”
Some of Mr. Romney’s harshest critics concede his competence and his grasp of Massachusetts’ problems and needs. Many of the initiatives he took into office were arguably nonpartisan; he brought to the job the same gimlet-eyed scrutiny of costs and revenues that he employed as an investment manager to spot potentially profitable companies.
But in contrast to his statements in the debate, many say, Mr. Romney neither mastered the art of reaching across the aisle nor achieved unusual success as governor. To the contrary, they say, his relations with Democrats could be acrimonious, and his ability to get big things done could be just as shackled as is President Obama’s ability to push his agenda through a hostile House of Representatives.
Mr. Romney could be appealing and persuasive, they say. But he also could display a certain political tone-deafness and a failure to nurture the constituencies he needed to make his initiatives succeed.
Mr. Romney promoted his record on Wednesday as a bipartisan leader by noting that he met regularly with the Democratic leadership of the Massachusetts legislature. But that apparently was not enough to keep afloat a relationship that had been rancorous from the beginning.
 In the opening months of his tenure, Mr. Romney vetoed a House plan to create new committees and raise legislative pay, and the legislators rejected his flagship proposal, a nearly 600-page plan to overhaul the state bureaucracy. “They had a deteriorating relationship during the first two years,” said Jeffrey Berry, a political science professor and expert on state politics at Tufts University. 
Mr. Romney proved to have a taste for vetoes, killing legislative initiatives in his first two years at more than twice the rate of his more popular Republican predecessor, William F. Weld, The Boston Globe reported in 2004.
Some seemed almost designed to rankle legislators: one rejected an increase in disability payments to a police officer who had slipped on an ice patch. Others reflect his ramrod-straight views on ethics and government waste — knocking down a special pension deal for a state legislator; rejecting a subsidy to Medicaid payments so nursing homes could provide kosher meals to Jewish residents.
“He seemed to take great delight in vetoing bills,” recalled his director of legislative affairs, John O’Keefe. "Some of the bills we would chuckle when we wrote the veto message.”
By 2004, the second year of his term, Mr. Romney was provoked enough to mount an unprecedented campaign to unseat Democratic legislators, spending $3 million in Republican Party money and hiring a nationally known political strategist, Michael Murphy, to plan the battle.
The effort failed spectacularly. Republicans lost seats, leaving them with their smallest legislative delegation since 1867. Democratic lawmakers were reported to have been deeply angered by the campaign’s tactics.
On close scrutiny, some of the bipartisan successes that Mr. Romney claimed in the Wednesday debate turn out to by peppered with asterisks.
On education, Mr. Romney was correct in stating that Massachusetts students were ranked first in the nation during his tenure. Students in grades four and eight took top honors in reading and mathematics on the 2003 National Assessment of Educational Progress.
However, educators largely credit an overarching reform of state schools 10 years earlier under Governor Weld. The reforms doubled state spending on schools and brought standards and accountability to administrators and students.
“Governor Romney does not get to take the credit for achieving that No. 1 ranking,” said Mike Gilbert, field director for the nonprofit Massachusetts Association of School Committees, “but it did happen while he was in office.”
Mr. Romney’s claim that he was responsible for 19 separate tax cuts is also technically accurate, but not the full story. In 2005, for example, Mr. Romney’s administration wrote legislation refunding $250 million in capital gains taxes — but the bill came only in response to a court ruling that the taxes had been illegally withheld in 2002.
Many of the other tax cuts were first proposed by the legislature, not Mr. Romney, and others were routine extensions of existing tax reductions or were one-day sales tax holidays. 

05 October 2012

Romney captures the God vote at first debate 4OKT12

THE headline should have continued God saves Himself and escapes!!!!
A post on AlterNet gives us a warning of what mitt robme romney might be like as a mormon president. The beliefs of the mormon church, it's members adherence to them & judgements by the church are issues for the church to deal with. BUT we must be wary of mitt romney's claims that mormonism will not control his presidency for three reasons. First, consider what he has said about the separation of church and state. “Freedom requires religion just as religion requires freedom, ” Romney asserted in a major 2007 speech. THAT is not an endorsement of the separation of church and state and you know who's religion he is referencing in that speech. Second, consider his campaign for governor of Massachusetts and his governing of Massachusetts (explained in AlterNet http://bucknacktssordidtawdryblog.blogspot.com/2012/09/mitt-romneys-role-as-mormon-bishop.html ). He told the voters what he knew they wanted to hear and then governed according mormonism. Third, the mormon church teaches it is OK to lie if it benefits the faith and mitt romney has proven, through his record and gov of Massachusetts and throughout his presidential campaign that he is a great believer in and practitioner of this mormon teaching. Think a church wouldn't OK lying, deception, misrepresentation and manipulation? Check out Mormon Insider Reveals Insights on Romney & Exclusive: Brigham Young’s Great-Great-Granddaughter on Mormonism and Mitt Romney 7AUG12 
The mormons aren't the only "religious" people using lies to promote the romney campaign. The evangelical "christian" right wing is using lies, deception and manipulation in their voter guide being distributed in their churches and via cell phones. For more on this most unchristian campaigning by romneys "religious" supporters see 3 Big Lies in Religious-Right 'Voter Guide' Hitting 13 Million Cell Phones ( http://bucknacktssordidtawdryblog.blogspot.com/2012/09/3-big-lies-in-religious-right-voter.html )
THERE has to be somebody in a leadership position in the Christian Church who can address the issue of Christians deliberately lying about political candidates they oppose or support, and about Christians distributing election information about candidates that are filled with deliberate lies, deception, and misinformation to manipulate the Christian vote. Protestant denominations that allow distribution of such material to their congregants are tarnishing the reputation of Christianity and the leadership of each individual church that allows such material to be distributed in their church, to their members, is committing the same sins as those who have produced this material. The God I grew up believing in and that I still believe in has never asked anyone, and will never ask anyone, to lie for HIM.

The Bible tells us not to bear false witness against one's neighbor. Ralph Reed apparently never got the memo. 

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           When Mitt Romney mentioned the “Creator” in the debate Wednesday, he owned it. “We’re all children of the same God,” he said.
            That’s about 85 percent of the country he was talking to. That should have been President Obama’s constituency but he let Romney have it as he let Romney have the debate.
            Citing the Declaration of Independence, Romney said: “Second, is that line that says we are endowed by our Creator with our rights, I believe we must maintain our commitment to religious tolerance and freedom in this country. That statement also says that we are endowed by our creator with the right to pursue happiness as we choose. I interpret that as, one, making sure that those people who are less fortunate and can’t care for themselves are cared by -- by one another.”
This is a religious country. Part of claiming your citizenship is claiming a belief in God, even if you are not Christian.. We’ve got the Creator in our Declaration of Independence. We’ve got “In God We Trust” on our coins. We’ve got “one nation under God” in our Pledge of Allegiance. And we say prayers in the Senate and the House of Representatives to God.
            An atheist could never get elected dog catcher, much less president. (Democratic Rep. Pete Stark of California is a nontheist but doesn’t talk much about it). 
            Up until now, the idea of being American and believing in God were synonymous.
            When the Republicans tried to take away the flag it took a long time for the Democrats to realize they had been hijacked. For years, Democrats were wary of wearing flag pins for fear of seeming to pander. They finally got the message.
            Now it’s God. The Republicans have claimed God as their own this entire campaign, each candidate trying to out-Christian the other. Even Obama, though 17 percent of registered voters think he is a Muslim, has talked about being a Christian as often as he can.
            Still, none of Obama’s references have been in a debate. And there was Obama-- grim faced, nervous, fumbling his words and wearing his American flag pin -- letting Romney, confident and aggressive and in control, roll right over him at every turn.
            But the God thing clinched it. If Obama wants to win the next debate, he needs to wear God, as much as it offends him to do so, the same way he captured the flag for this one.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/on-faith/romney-captures-the-god-vote-at-first-debate/2012/10/04/e897f44c-0de3-11e2-bb5e-492c0d30bff6_print.html

04 October 2012

Mitt Romney Won the Debate. But Why? 4OKT12

MORE debate lies by mitt robme romney exposed by Bob Cesca on HuffPost, and check this out from The Daily Kos Mitt Romney: Lying to victory (DEBATE ANALYSIS) 4OKT12
Mitt Romney won the debate last night but only if you judge the "winner" of a debate as the most hyperkinetic, oftentimes aggressive and condescending participant who used his rehearsed delivery to spackle over his lies, mistakes, generalities and misleading statements.
Almost on cue, the cable news people along with, shockingly enough, some people who I otherwise admire and whose work I read every day, confused style for substance and leadership quality -- and they've completely and totally ignored the words Mitt Romney actually said. More on that presently.
In contrast to Mitt Romney's used-car salesman approach in which he stabs you in the face but does so in a way that makes you thank him and shake his clammy hand in the end, Barack Obama's natural and authentic -- underscore authentic -- style might've seemed like he wasn't as polished.
No, the president wasn't as energetic as he could've been. Yes, he was far too kind and deferential to an opponent whose entire goal is to roll back every Obama administration achievement. But there was zero chance that President Obama would appear in Denver last night and suddenly reveal himself to be a snappy, idealized Aaron Sorkin character. Furthermore, many of my friends on the left lapsed back into this weird chronic amnesia in which they forget how Barack Obama carries himself, how he debates and who he is. With a few exceptions, the Obama you watched last night was the same Obama we watched win all three debates against John McCain four years ago, say nothing of all of the various town halls, press conferences and Question Time forums he's hosted. He's thoughtful and deliberate and, yes, he sometimes stammers during pauses, but that's no reflection on his leadership qualities or unrivaled intelligence. For the most part, this is how he's always comported himself. The problem, however, was that it might've come off as too deliberate and thoughtful when contrasted against Romney's caffeinated morning zoo deejay persona.
Speaking of which, let's talk about Romney's performance in terms of what he said.
Romney -- not the president -- made the biggest mistake of the night and almost everyone missed it. The president, in a very effective run, highlighted not only "corporate welfare" for oil companies but he also talked about how corporations receive tax breaks when they ship jobs overseas.
Romney's response to this tax break accusation?
"The second topic, which is you said you get a deduction for getting a plant overseas. Look, I've been in business for 25 years. I have no idea what you're talking about. I maybe need to get a new accountant." In other words, Why didn't I get that tax break when I shipped jobs overseas?
Right there, and on a televised presidential debate, Romney accidentally admitted to shipping jobs overseas -- but claims to have never received such a tax break, obviously when he's shipped jobs overseas with Bain Capital. In an alternate dimension of punditry that isn't an superficial as ours, this might have been the headline today, especially given that American job creation was a central point of debate. Romney appeared on television last night and was tasked with describing how he would create jobs, he ended up copping to eliminating American jobs and sending those jobs to China and elsewhere. Romney needs to be pressed on this point. Over and over and over.
And immediately following that discussion, Romney went on to repeat the tired and universally debunked lie that Obamacare "cuts" $716 billion from Medicare.
He also insisted that his tax cuts, which are the centerpiece of his economic plan, wouldn't cost $5 trillion. Of course they do. The Tax Policy Center agrees. This is the guy who fancies himself as the deficit hawk whose convention featured a real-time debt clock, and he's on deck to add another $5 trillion to the deficit. He also said the cuts won't result in tax hikes on the middle class. FactCheck.org wrote, "Experts say that's not possible." And regarding the "six studies" that Romney repeatedly cited as evidence against the massive deficit that his tax plan would create, it's actually five studies, not six. Further:
Two of the five "studies" were blog items. And none of three other studies was nonpartisan: Two were written by Romney campaign advisers and a third was by a former economic adviser to President George W. Bush.
Romney also accused the president of doubling the deficit. This is a super-colossal lie. The president was inaugurated into a $1.2 trillion deficit for 2009 generated by Bush spending requests. The highest the deficit has climbed was $1.4 trillion by the end of that year. In every year since then, the deficit has been cut -- contrary to the wishes of liberals like me.
On top of everything else, Romney continued to be elliptical and deceptive about how he intends to pass a repeal of various unknown tax deductions; how he intends to pass a health care replacement through a potentially hostile Senate after repealing Obamacare, which most of the sitting Democratic senators spent considerable political capital to pass into law; how he intends to replace Dodd-Frank when he knows the tea party Republicans in the House will never vote for new regulations on Wall Street; or how tax cuts will magically create jobs even though businesses are enjoying the lowest taxes in history yet aren't spending the record $2 trillion in cash assets being mysteriously held in reserve.
Mitt Romney, for all of his spastic awkwardness, is clearly a good actor. Most serial liars and matchstick men are Oscar-worthy performers. You don't get this far in a race for the presidency with a record of 20-40 lies per week (that Benen knows of) without being a slick operator. President Obama, for his part, wasn't entirely as mighty as he could've been, but his side of the affair wasn't the disaster some pundits (I'm looking at you, Chris Matthews and Ed Schultz) and, sadly, fellow liberals have claimed.
Adding... Not that this will impact the broader conventional wisdom about who "won," but you should try reading some of the transcript of the debate.

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Mitt Romney: Lying to victory (DEBATE ANALYSIS) 4OKT12

LIES, lies and more lies is how mitt robme romney won the first debate with Pres Obama. From The Daily Kos, and check this out by Bob Cesca on HuffPost Mitt Romney Won the Debate. But Why? 4OKT12


Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney speaks during the first presidential debate with President Barack Obama (not pictured) in Denver October 3, 2012.     REUTERS/Jason Reed (UNITED STATES - Tags: POLITICS ELECTIONS USA PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION TPX IMAGES OF THE DAY)
attribution: REUTERS

"How much did I lie?"
The results of Wednesday night's first presidential debate are in and it's official: Mitt Romney won round one. He was aggressive, he was decisive, he delivered. Of course he also lied through his teeth for most of the debate. Romney lied:
  • When he claimed that "pre-existing conditions are covered under my plan." They're not.
  • When he said that President Obama had "cut Medicare by $716 billion to pay for Obamacare." Obama didn't.
  • When he denied proposing a $5 trillion tax cut. He did.
  • When he said President Obama had "added almost as much to the federal debt as all the prior presidents combined." Not even close.
  • When he resurrected "death panels." That was called "one of the biggest whoppers of the night."
  • When he stated that half the green energy companies given stimulus funds had failed. Only if three out of nearly three dozen is half.
Stay tuned. These just scratch the surface.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/10/04/1139793/-Mitt-Romney-Lying-to-victory?detail=email

WATCH THE VIDEO "THE LINE" IT EXPOSES POVERTY IN AMERICA, AND IT IS NOT WHAT YOU THINK 2OKT12

WATCH The Line, to find out what poverty in America really is and why we, as a society, as a nation that claims to be guided by Christianity, must address the issue of poverty in America.
After you watch the video check out the analysis of the Obama-romney debate in my earlier post Why Obama Didn't Mention the 47 Percent Video & Who Didn’t Win the Presidential Debate? & THE LINE (VIDEO) 4OKT12

Poverty in America — It's not what you think

The Line documents the stories of people across the country living at or below the poverty line. They have goals. They have children. They work hard. They are people like you and me.

From Chicago's suburbs and west side to the Gulf Coast to North Carolina, millions of Americans are struggling every day to make it above The Line.

Who Didn’t Win the Presidential Debate?

(L-R, top-bottom) John, Sheila, Ronnie, and James from "The Line."
(L-R, top-bottom) John, Sheila, Ronnie, and James from "The Line."
Many people in America are poor, due to no fault of their own—and their numbers are growing.

If you really know any poor people, you know that to be true. If you don’t, the first sentence of this post runs against the grain of many cultural assumptions in America that tend to blame people for being poor.

On the eve of the first Presidential debate, Sojourners premiered The Line — a film about the new faces of poverty in America. In this powerful documentary from award-winning filmmaker Linda Midgett, those popular judgmental assumptions against poor people clearly and convincingly are debunked.

The Line, which I am asking everyone who reads this column to watch, deftly dismantles many stereotypes about poverty and why a growing number of Americans find themselves falling into it. The film does so by telling the personal stories of people who have fallen beneath “the line.”

My 14-year-old son Luke, watched the story of John: a banker from a failed bank who once made a six figure salary, but who now finds himself a substitute teacher making $12,000 a year and trying to raise his three kids. John painfully talked about what it feels like to have to go to a food bank because he has no other viable choice.

His story caused Luke to ask his mom after the film, “John said he got straight A’s in school, so could that happen to me?”

My nine year old, Jack, was most impressed with James, a fellow who lost a blue-collar job after 23 years, and now — in his 50s —  was working hard to be a successful busboy.

My Mississippi-born friend Burns Strider said he identified most with Ronnie — a self-employed fisherman in coastal Louisiana whose family has been in the shrimping business for generations who faces an uncertain future now that the shrimp have disappeared in the wake of Hurricane Katrina and the BP Oil spill that have devastated the ecosystem and the economy.

And many in the hundreds-strong crowd that packed the DC theater where The Line premiered earlier this week were drawn to Sheila, a mother of three who, after lifting herself out of poverty and a poor, violent neighborhood in Chicago, tripped and fell down the steps of an “L” train stop and has fought against disabilities and health care costs ever since.

Sheila was attended the DC premiere and was a part of the panel discussion, along with the director, Linda Midgett, Adam Taylor from Bread for the World, and me, that followed the screening.

What also was true of each of the people profiled in the film is that falling into poverty made them feel alone. The line that most struck me was from Ronnie who, when speaking about himself and his wife, said, “We have no confidence in the future…and we worry about our kids.”

After the presidential debate last night, I doubt if the growing numbers of poor people in America feel less alone.

The political discussion today is only about who won the debate. But millions of people who are struggling financially (and otherwise) in America are not likely to feel that they did.

Presidential candidates could make it clear to those who are experiencing very hard times that they will not be left alone. But that didn’t come across last night, in the first presidential debate focused on domestic policy.

The competing narratives between Obama and Romney about tax policies, health care, the role of government, their focus on the middle class, and their differing arguments for economic growth now are being polled and debated as pundits and wonks try to determine to which candidate had the best performance and how it might affect the electoral numbers.

But one thing is certain about last night: there was no clarifying discussion about what the policies Obama and Romney debated will mean for the Americans who are struggling the most.

After watching The Line, what so many of us felt was a desire to reach out to the people who, with great candor and courage, swallowed their pride (and their privacy) and told their stories, revealing how hard their lives have become.

Conservative, liberal, neither or both —I believe many Americans would want to reach out to the people whose stories were told in The Line.

Clearly it is the mission of the church to tell and to show the millions of people who have fallen below the poverty line that they are not alone. Jesus clearly says, in the Matthew 25 that how we treat them is how we treat him.

I think we also want to live in a society that makes sure that people who are struggling with poverty are not left alone. That is the responsibility of all of us, and it is also part of the role of government.

The presidential candidates could make those who are hurting the most feel like they are not alone anymore. But that didn’t happen last night.

Journalists tell us at Sojourners that poverty is not a “sexy” issue in America — especially not at election time. Some told us that again on the day The Line premiered.

We had hoped for perhaps 100 screenings of The Line around the country. By the time the film began rolling Tuesday night, we had more than 1,600 screenings of the film scheduled across the country and around the globe — including nearly every state and continent, even as far away as Japan, New Zealand and Australia.

The tremendous response we are getting to this extraordinary film tells me that while the issue poverty in America may not be a top issue for our journalists and our politicians, it most assuredly is for a growing number of people of all faith traditions and none, across denominational, political, and cultural lines.

The stories in The Line explain why.

See the film, share it, talk about it, and help make this poverty — a fundamental moral issue that respects the health (and wealth) of the soul of our nation — a priority during this election season and beyond.

Jim Wallis is CEO of Sojourners, and the author of Rediscovering Values: A Guide for Economic and Moral Recovery and the forthcoming On God's Side: What Religion Forgets and Politics Hasn't Learned about Serving the Common Good, which will be released in February 2013. Follow Jim on Twitter @JimWallis or join him on Facebook HERE

Why Obama Didn't Mention the 47 Percent Video & Who Didn’t Win the Presidential Debate? & THE LINE (VIDEO) 4OKT12

DEBATE analysis from Mother Jones of the first debate between Pres Obama and mitt robme romney offering an answer to the questions of why didn't the President raise romney's 47% comments and why was romney allowed to dominate the issues? And from God's Politics Blog, commentary of the plight of the poor completely absent from the debate. Other debate commentary available in my earlier post The First Presidential Debate & Five Takeaways From The First Presidential Debate 4OKT12
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After the first presidential debate in Denver—which an on-the-attack Mitt Romney seemed to exploit better than a noncombative President Barack Obama—at least one question loomed: Why had the president not once referred to the 47 percent video that showed Romney denigrating half of Americans as moochers and victims who don't assume responsibility for their lives? After all, this video seemed to have sent the Romney campaign reeling, and focus groups conducted by both campaigns have found it had a serious impact on voter perceptions of Romney.
The morning after the debate, I contacted several Democratic strategists. They each said they were puzzled by Obama's silence on this topic and by his decision not to say a word about Romney's days at Bain Capital. "This is the stuff that has been working for us," one remarked. "Bain, 47 percent, Romney not empathizing with the middle class. Why not mention it?"
The Obama campaign does have an explanation. When I asked a top campaign official why Obama had made no mention of Romney's 47 percent remark, he said,
Not that we won't talk about it again. We will. But [what's] most compelling [is] hearing it from Romney himself. We've got that on the air at a heavy dollar amount in key states. And it's sunk in. Ultimately the president's goal last night was to speak past the pundits and directly to the undecided voter tuning in for the first time about the economic choice and his plans to restore economic security.
It's clear, one Democratic strategist said, that Obama's inner circle concluded it was best not to turn the debate into a slugfest and hit Romney personally. That might come across as not presidential. It could distract from his aim of persuading those few remaining undecideds that they should see this election as a choice between two starkly different visions for the future and select his. Besides, there are weeks of ads to come, and if the 47 percent theme continues to resonate, the campaign certainly can keep producing ads that use the video as ammo.
Despite the pundit reviews noting that Romney performed better than Obama, is it possible that Obama's low-impact strategy worked—or didn't fail? Priorities USA Action, a pro-Obama super-PAC, has released a memo based on a "dial group session" pollster Geoff Garin held in Aurora, Colorado, during the debate; the participants were "weak Democrats and independents who voted for Obama in 2008 but who remain open to switching in the upcoming election." The results were mixed:
Compared with the beginning of the session, there was a doubling in the number of respondents who said that Obama has good ideas for improving the economy. While Romney also improved on this dimension, 63% of respondents said at the end that Obama expressed good ideas for improving the economy, compared with 27% who said the same about Romney in the debate…
Romney did gain ground on the President on the issue of taxes, and he largely negated the advantage Obama had on the issue when respondents first walked into the room.
In the moment-to-moment dialing, President Obama’s high points were when he talked about outsourcing and tax breaks for shipping jobs overseas, the need for a balanced approach to dealing with the deficit, and clean energy. Romney’s high points were fewer, but he scored best whenever he spoke about making jobs the number-one priority.
Respondents who came into the room open to Romney as an alternative to Obama felt disappointed in Romney’s lack of specifics. But Romney did benefit from low expectations among this group, and several said that Romney did not seem as bad as they thought he might be. For these key swing voters, whom Obama must hold and Romney must win, the first debate did not change much, but it also did not settle much. Obama continues to have the advantage with them, but the deal still is not sealed.
Not settle much. That's often the case with presidential debates. But perhaps the most worrisome of these findings for the Obama camp is that these voters ended up believing Romney's not such a bad guy. That suggests his debate performance has the potential to undo some of the damage he suffered from the Bain blasts and the revelation of his 47 percent tirade. Yet, as the Obama campaign official suggests, there's plenty of time—and plenty of opportunity—for the campaign to resume its Bain-bashing and reprise its 47 percent assault.
UPDATE: On a conference call with reporters, a defensive David Axelrod, Obama's chief strategist, noted that the president's supporters would have liked to see Obama slam Romney on Bain, tax returns, and the 47 percent video. But, he added, "a lot of these issues are well known to the public," and Obama's "choice was to talk about the main things people are worried about in their lives." Obama, Axelrod said, had wanted to avoid an insult-fest and instead use the debate to discuss the future. He did note that following the debate the campaign would "make some adjustments."

The First Presidential Debate & Five Takeaways From The First Presidential Debate 4OKT12

I was disappointed in Pres Obama's debate performance last night, I thought he allowed mitt robme romney to get away with the lies and deceptions he has been repeating while campaigning and failed to challenge him directly on his economic agenda, bain capital and outsourcing jobs to the prc china. Pres Obama can not repeat last night's performance in the remaining two debates if he wants to win this election. Here are two sane, sobering, realistic analysis of the debate from Robert Reich on HuffPost and NPR, and for commentary on what wasn't covered in the the debate see my post Why Obama Didn't Mention the 47 Percent Video & Who Didn’t Win the Presidential Debate? 4OKT12
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In Wednesday night's debate, Romney won on style while Obama won on substance. Romney sounded as if he had conviction, which means he's either convinced himself that the lies he tells are true or he's a fabulous actor.
But what struck me most was how much Obama allowed Romney to get away with: Five times Romney accused Obama of raiding Medicare of $716 billion, which is a complete fabrication. Obama never mentioned the regressiveness of Romney's budget plan -- awarding the rich and hurting the middle class and the poor. He never mentioned Bain Capital, or Romney's 47 percent talk, or Romney's "carried-interest" tax loophole. Obama allowed Romney to talk about replacing Dodd-Frank and the Affordable Care Act without demanding that Romney be specific about what he'd replace and why. And so on.
I've been worried about Obama's poor debate performance for some time now. He was terrible in the 2008 primary debates, for example. Expectations are always high -- he's known as an eloquent orator. But when he has to think on his feet and punch back, he's not nearly as confident or assured as he is when he is giving a speech or explaining a large problem and its solution. He is an educator, not a pugilist, and this puts him at a disadvantage in any debate.
Romney stayed on script. If you look at a transcript of his remarks you'll see that he repeated the same lines almost word for word in different contexts. He has memorized a bunch of lines, and practiced delivering them. The overall effect is to make him seem assured and even passionate about his position. He said over and over that he cares about jobs, about small businesses, and ordinary Americans. But his policies and his record at Bain tell a very different story.
The question now is whether Team Obama understands that our president must be more aggressive and commanding in the next two debates -- and be unafraid to respectfully pin Romney to the floor.

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Five Takeaways From The First Presidential Debate

Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney and President Obama talk after the first presidential debate at the University of Denver on Wednesday.
Enlarge Charlie Neibergall/AP Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney and President Obama talk after the first presidential debate at the University of Denver on Wednesday.

Mitt Romney may have given his campaign something of a reset with his performance in the first debate against President Obama.
He appeared more comfortable on stage than the incumbent, and was able at least to lay the groundwork for a message of bipartisanship that could appeal to remaining undecided voters.
Of course, it's not clear yet whether the debate will create enough momentum to offer Romney an advantage heading into the next debate, let alone through Election Day. Perhaps some of the inevitable post-debate fact checking will challenge Romney's credence on certain points.
But it's notable that Obama failed to do much of that himself, launching far fewer attacks during the debate than his aggressive campaign advertising strategy suggested he might.
Here's a quick review of five takeaways from the first debate in Denver:
Obama Looked Tired And Sounded Defensive
Obama's advisers noted before the debate that the president was having a hard time finding much unbroken debate practice time, and much of what he did have was devoted to boiling down his positions to fit the time limits. All of this showed.
Romney looked straight at his opponent, often wearing a confident Mona Lisa grin. Obama looked down at his notes or over at the moderator, Jim Lehrer of PBS, only occasionally looking directly into the camera.
Aside from his body language, some of Obama's answers came across as wonky. Both men offered laundry lists of their ideas, but Obama failed to craft a compelling case for his own record or second-term agenda, instead repeating complaints that he had inherited a mess.
What's more, he failed to go after Romney aggressively. There was no mention of Bain Capital or Romney's dismissive videotaped comments about the "47 percent" of Americans who are dependent on government.
Only in the last 20 minutes of the 90-minute debate did Obama land much of a blow, complaining that Romney was keeping the specifics about his tax plans and his approaches to health care and banking regulation too much a secret.
Romney Grasped The Mantle Of Bipartisanship
Romney said he didn't want to lay out anything other than broad principles during the campaign, because he found out as Massachusetts governor that a "my way or the highway" approach doesn't win over legislators.
Even before Lehrer had made "partisan gridlock" the subject of his final question, Romney stressed the importance of bipartisanship. He said that something as important as the federal health care law should have been passed on a bipartisan basis (it received essentially no GOP support) and paid homage to the working relationship of Republican President Ronald Reagan and Democratic House Speaker Tip O'Neill in the 1980s.
"I had the great experience — it didn't seem like it at the time — of being elected in a state where my legislature was 87 percent Democrat," Romney said, "and that meant I figured out from day one I had to get along and I had to work across the aisle to get anything done."
Given consistent Republican opposition to Obama in Congress — some have called it obstructionism — no doubt Democrats will question the sincerity of Romney's embrace of bipartisanship. But it's a message that could be welcomed by voters, particularly centrist independents.
You're A Drinking Game Winner If You're Middle Class
Both candidates were at pains to pay tribute to members of the middle class, again and again. Each referred to specific members of the middle class they had met along the campaign trail, who had gone back to school or were now out of work. Each insisted his plan would do more to help such people out and create middle-class jobs.
Obama argued that Romney's plans to cut taxes and increase military spending would necessarily cause the deficit to balloon or "burden" the middle class, because there would not be sufficient savings available to offset their cost by ending deductions or closing loopholes.
Romney insisted that his tax-cut plan would impose no such hardship. "I will not, under any circumstances, raise taxes on middle-income families," he said.
When Candidates Have The Microphone, They'll Keep Talking
Romney sought to refute a study Obama had cited to show his tax package would hurt the middle class was wrong: "There are six other studies that looked at the study you describe and say it's completely wrong," Romney said.
Many of the candidate's responses were like that: Sometimes arcane, often straying from the original question that Lehrer had asked. At one point, Romney used an education question to repeat a charge that Obama had squandered billions on unsuccessful green-energy programs.
Nearly all politicians use debate questions merely as jumping-off points, concerning themselves with highlighting policies they deem most important. Both men did that Wednesday, ignoring Lehrer's frequent invitations to confront or question their opponent directly, in favor of rattling off other arguments of their own.
Partly as a result, the debate's intended format, of 15-minute segments each covering six different topics, was broken almost immediately, leaving only three minutes for the final segment.
Lehrer struggled unsuccessfully to cut off the two candidates and redirect them to the supposed topic at hand. A stammering Twitter handle called @SilentJimLehrer went up during the debate, quickly attracting thousands of followers.
Democrats Will Want To Retool For Future Debates
For all his oratorical gifts, Obama has sometimes struggled in debates. He was often out-mastered during the long series of debates during the Democratic primary season in 2008 and hasn't had much practice since then — except for his debates against Sen. John McCain in 2008.
Republicans, meanwhile, have been nearly salivating for months at the prospect of the vice presidential debate, which takes place on Oct. 11. They believe Romney's running mate, Rep. Paul Ryan of Wisconsin, has the intellectual and rhetorical firepower to wipe the floor with Vice President Joe Biden.
That may prove to be wishful thinking. Ryan has put many of his own ideas on ice while serving as the loyal No. 2, while Biden is deeply versed in both domestic and foreign policy.
But Obama's lackluster performance — coupled with Biden's remark Tuesday that "the middle class ...has been buried the last four years" — will leave GOP partisans giddy with anticipation of next Thursday's debate.

Close Read: NPR Reporters Examine Denver Debate

Our team provides analysis and checks the facts behind the candidates' statements in Denver.
 

A GRAPHIC ANALYSIS OF LAST NIGHT'S PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE 4OKT12

A graphic analysis of last  night's presidential debate....

02 October 2012

Act Now in Honor of Aurora Families 2OKT12

MASS SHOOTINGS have continued since the tragedy at Aurora, Colorado just a few of months ago. Oak Grove, WI and Minneapolis, MN were just a couple that made national news, but families and communities are suffering because the nra has the money from the gun industry to operate a nefarious propaganda campaign against common sense gun control and politicians are so cowardly they will not legislate the common sense gun controls that would help prevent some of this violence (though they do protect themselves by outlawing weapons in the government facilities where they work. Check this out from Tom and Caren Teves, parents of Alex Teves, one of the murder victims killed in Aurora on 20JUL12 and click the link to send a letter to Jim Lehrer, moderator of the presidential debate in Denver on 3OKT12 to ask the candidates what they plan to do about the growing gun violence in the US, and then share with your family and friends.
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Our son Alex was gunned-down at the movie theater in Aurora, Colorado last July. He was doing what many young people do on weekends...he went to the movies.
Alex graduated from the University of Denver, just a month before being killed in the theater. In a public memorial service, he was honored just last month by the University’s president, chancellor and staff.
The University of Denver is also the site of the first presidential debate on Wednesday night. We have joined with other family members who lost loved ones in that attack—those of AJ Boik, Jonathan Blunk, Gordon Cowden, Jessica Ghawi, Matt McQuinn, Micayla Medek and Rebecca Wingo—to respectfully urge debate moderator, Jim Lehrer, to ask the candidates to present their plans to address gun violence.
But we need YOUR help. This is the time. The first presidential debate at the University of Denver is the place.
Recruit ONE person to sign the letter to Jim Lehrer!
Make your voice heard!  We ARE better than this!

Mass shootings will happen again. It’s not a matter of if, but when. Thirty-two Americans will be murdered today. We just don’t yet know their names or the families or communities they come from. We must have a national debate on this issue.
We will continue to fight for that America—one where fewer parents ever have to go through the pain of losing a child to gun violence.
We wanted to take a moment to thank you for standing with us. Please call, text, Facebook or e-mail someone you know and get them to take action now!
Sincerely,
Tom and Caren Teves
Parents of Alex Teves
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16 September 2012

Will Obama win in November? Wide gap between preference and prediction. 16SEP12

COMPLACENCY will cause us to loose this election. Public opinion, polls and electoral vote predictions may all point to an Obama victory, but if we don't keep working, keep phone banking, keep canvassing, keep registering voters and GET OUT THE VOTE ON NOV 6TH we will have to get used to that foul taste in our mouths every time we say Pres Romney. TAKE NOTHING FOR GRANTED, WORK LIKE WE ARE BEHIND! Check this out from the Washington Post....and if you are motivated go to www.barackobama.com to find a campaign office near you for volunteer opportunities.

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National polling suggests that the American public is deeply divided about whom it wants to be the next president of the United States.
In a Washington Post-ABC News survey released last week President Obama led Mitt Romney by 49 percent to 48 percent among likely voters. A New York Times-CBS News poll released around the same time put Obama at 49 percent to Romney’s 46 percent among those most likely to vote.
But if likely voters are almost evenly split on who should occupy 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. in January, they are far less indecisive on who they think will be the next president.
Nearly six in 10 (59 percent) registered voters in a Post-ABC poll in late August said they thought Obama would win while just 34 percent chose Romney, even as the head-to-head vote in that poll stood at 47 percent for Romney and 46 percent for Obama among registered voters.
The story was the same in early July when a Post-ABC poll found the two candidates tied at 47 percent among registered voters in the horse race but Obama led by 58 percent to 34 percent on the question of who will win.
What explains the wide gap between the candidate voters want to win and the one they think will win? Theories abound.
“The ballot question is driven by who voters want to win,” said Republican pollster Whit Ayres. “The ‘Who do you think will win?’ question is driven by pundits and commentators who want Obama to win.”
Added Ayres: “[Comedian] Bill Maher and his ilk affect the thinking of a lot of people on the predictive question but fortunately do not affect the thinking of that many people on the preference question.”
Under Ayres’s line of thinking, the tone of the coverage of the race leads people who want Romney to win to believe that he ultimately won’t — although that sentiment doesn’t change how they plan to vote.
Republicans point to the past week of media coverage of the consulate attack in Libya and other anti-American protests in the region as evidence of the media swaying the predictive question. The coverage, they insist, was heavily focused on whether Romney jumped the gun with his statement on Libya, not on whether the Obama administration’s actions (or lack thereof) may have led to a lack of American leadership in the region.
There’s also a less partisan explanation. That is that people tend to struggle to imagine someone other than the current occupant of the White House as the president until he, well, isn’t anymore — even if they don’t like him or don’t plan to vote for him. So it’s possible that until Nov. 6 — or maybe until the debates start early next month — the numbers on the “who will win” question won’t change.
Just as there are competing theories on the gap between the ballot test and the prediction question, there are a number of operating assumptions about what it could mean for the actual vote.
Human nature is such that people like to be with the person they think looks like a winner — are there really that many people born fans of the L.A. Lakers or the New York Yankees? — and that reality suggests that if the general sense in the electorate is that Obama is going to win, it may tip some undecideds his way just so they can say they voted for the victor.
Not so, according to Ed Goeas, a longtime Republican pollster. “Large numbers of people saying that your candidate is going to win is not a good thing,” he said. “It has a dampening effect on driving your candidate’s vote to turn out. It allows other things in a person’s busy day to become more important because their candidate is going to win anyway.”
There is some evidence that Goeas is on to something. As we mentioned, Obama and Romney were running neck and neck among likely voters in an Post-ABC poll earlier this month. But among registered voters Obama led by 50 percent to 44 percent. That trend has been apparent in a slew of national polls for months; the more the sample is trimmed to those absolutely planning to vote on Nov. 6, the better Romney performs.
There’s not enough evidence on either side of the argument to conclusively say that Obama’s lead on the “who will win” question is good, bad or indifferent to his chances in November. But it’s a fascinating window into the difference between “want” and “will” in politics.
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