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01 May 2025
PBS CEO weighs in on the potential impact of cutting public media funding & Congress to vote NEXT WEEK on defunding PBS and public radio 29&30APR25
THE greed of the drumpf / trump-vance-musk administration overwhelmingly supported by the gop / greed over people-republican party controlling the U.S. House continues to astound as well as dismay and disgust. Their latest target in order to maintain the rich peoples tax cuts is not only cutting or eliminating funding for the CPB / Corporation for Public Broadcasting, PBS / Public Broadcasting System and NPR / National Public Radio. They are also attempting to claw back $1.1 billion in past funding. They are focused on eliminating an agency that cost each American $1.60 A YEAR! Please watch this PBS NewsHour report on the issue, then check out the call to action by Demand Progress and take the time to e mail your representative and senators telling them they can not allow the CPB, PBS and NPR to be eliminated to maintain the drumpf / trump tax cuts for billionaires and mega millionaires. Taking action is critical. For those who want to participate in e mailing congress but are not sure what to say I will post my e mails here so anyone can use them for ideas or copy and past them in their own e mails ( Be sure to change the representative's and senator's names as necessary. ) Please share this with family, friends and coworkers. We can and must win this battle!
MY E MAIL TO REP SUHAS SUBRAMANYAM D-VA 10TH DISTRICT
The CPB, PBS and NPR are targeted by the drumpf / trump-vance-musk administration along with the heritage foundation controlled gop / greed over people-republican party for debilitating budget cuts with the ultimate goal of their total elimination. You can not allow this to happen and must take whatever action permitted under House rules to deny the diversion of any of this funding to maintain drumpf's / trump's rich people's tax cuts. The CPB, PBS and NPR budgets must be fully funded. Please work with your colleagues in the Virginia delegation to the U.S. House as well as Virginia Senators Warner and Kaine to fully fund, maintain and protect the CPB, PBS and NPR. Thank you.
MY E MAIL TO SEN WARNER D-VA
The CPB, PBS and NPR are targeted by the drumpf / trump-vance-musk administration along with the heritage foundation controlled gop / greed over people-republican party for debilitating budget cuts with the ultimate goal of their total elimination. You can not allow this to happen and must take whatever action permitted under Senate rules to deny the diversion of any of this funding to maintain drumpf's / trump's rich people's tax cuts. The CPB, PBS and NPR budgets must be fully funded. Please work with Sen Kaine as well as Rep Suhas Subramanyam D VA 10th district and the rest of Virginia's U.S. House delegation to fully fund, maintain and protect the CPB, PBS and NPR. Thank you.
MY E MAIL TO SEN KAINE D-VA
The CPB, PBS and NPR are targeted by the drumpf / trump-vance-musk administration along with the heritage foundation controlled gop / greed over people-republican party for debilitating budget cuts with the ultimate goal of their total elimination. You can not allow this to happen and must take whatever action permitted under Senate rules to deny the diversion of any of this funding to maintain drumpf's / trump's rich people's tax cuts. The CPB, PBS and NPR budgets must be fully funded. Please work with Sen Warner as well as Rep Suhas Subramanyam D VA 10th district and the rest of Virginia's U.S. House delegation to fully fund, maintain and protect the CPB, PBS and NPR. Thank you.
( THE VIDEO TRANSCRIPT IS AT THE END OF THIS POST)
The Trump administration is expected to ask Congress to rescind more than $1 billion of funding from the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, the congressionally-created body through which NPR and PBS get federal funding, including for this program. The CPB is also suing the administration saying it illegally fired three members of the board. Amna Nawaz discussed more with PBS CEO Paula Kerger.
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Donald Trump is pushing to completely eliminate all federal funding for PBS and public radio — and the House of Representatives is expected to vote next week on a draconian measure that would force them to give back $1.1 billion in past funding.1
This is not a drill. This would be a crushing blow to PBS and public radio stations around the country.
Demand Progress has mobilized tens of thousands of people to contact Congress and help stop the defunding of public broadcasting. With this critical vote fast approaching, we need to turn up the pressure.
The Corporation for Public Broadcasting (CPB) represents a tiny fraction of the federal budget, but it is an essential source of funding for more than 1,500 local public television and radio stations around the country. Over 70% of the CPB's funding is passed through to locally owned public radio and television stations.2
That funding has made it possible for generations of kids to benefit from educational programming like Sesame Street and Mister Rogers' Neighborhood. In addition, public broadcasting is a vital source of reliable news and information, especially in rural areas where local newspapers have disappeared.
That's why a majority of the American people support funding public broadcasting by a nearly 20 point margin.3
Yet Donald Trump has relentlessly attacked public broadcasting for years, calling it a "total scam" and a "liberal disinformation machine."4 In fact, news broke yesterday that he fired three of the five members of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting's board as part of his escalating attacks.
Trump's attempts to defund public broadcasting were stopped in his first term, and we're fighting even harder to stop him this time around.
Sources: 1. Punchbowl News, "House Republican leaders eye rescissions vote in early May," April 21, 2025. 2. WHYY, "‘Essential’ or ‘propaganda’: Pa. lawmakers differ on support for Trump’s call to eliminate funding of NPR and PBS," April 25, 2025. 3. Pew Research Center, "Americans more likely to support than oppose continuing federal funding for NPR and PBS," March 26, 2025. 4. Newsweek, "Donald Trump Demands NPR Lose Funding," April 10, 2025.
Transcript
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AMNA NAWAZ: The Trump administration is expected to ask Congress to rescind more than a billion
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dollars of funding from the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, or CPB. That's the congressionally
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created body through which NPR and PBS get federal funding, including for this program.
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What's more, CPB sued the Trump administration in federal court today,
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saying the administration illegally fired three of its board members. Those members,
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all nominated to their current terms by President Biden, were terminated
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in an e-mail on Monday. The administration did not provide a reason for the firings.
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But CPB said in a statement today that it's -- quote -- "not a government entity and its
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board members are not government officers subject to the president's authority."
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I spoke earlier with Paula Kerger, the CEO of PBS.
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Paula Kerger, welcome back to the "News Hour." Thank you for being here.
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PAULA KERGER, CEO, Public Broadcasting Service: Oh, thank you for having me.
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I always enjoy spending time with you.
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AMNA NAWAZ: So there has been some reporting I'm sure you have seen.
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The administration made delay sending that request to rescind those funds to
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Congress while lawmakers are focused on the budget reconciliation process.
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What is your sense of the effort to rescind those funds? Is it a done deal at this point?
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PAULA KERGER: Well, I mean, we're trying to understand exactly what's happening,
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and it seems to be very much a moving target
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Over the last few weeks, we have heard that a rescission package may be imminent,
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and then it hasn't come forward. But this is probably the most difficult and serious threat
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in the time that I have been in public broadcasting. This idea that funds that
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had already been put aside for public broadcasting would be taken away really
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has tremendous implications to our stations, because that's actually where the resources go.
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Most of the money actually does not go to PBS or any national organization.
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It goes directly to our stations to help them support their operations.
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AMNA NAWAZ: So, as you and your team go, I know you're meeting with lawmakers, speaking to them to
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make the case. What is the argument you're laying out to them and what are you hearing in response?
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PAULA KERGER: Yes. Well, I think the most important thing is that -- from our perspective is to make
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sure that legislators, as they're thinking about very difficult decisions about how
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to deal with our country's budget, understand where these dollars go.
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It amounts to about $1.60 per person a year, just to put it into context. And the money
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goes directly to fund the operations of our stations across the country.
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When the Public Broadcasting Act was signed back in the late '60s,
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it was envisioned that public broadcasting would be a public-private partnership.
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This is different than many other public broadcasters around the world,
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which are largely state-supported. We are not. About 15 percent in aggregate
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numbers -- that's 1-5 percent -- of the budget for public broadcasting comes from
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the federal government. The rest of it comes from contributed money from viewers like you.
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But the idea behind this public-private partnership is that there are many stations
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in communities that, without the federal support, the stations would not exist. I
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have been to really extraordinary stations in small parts of the country in places like
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Granite Falls and in Cookeville, Tennessee, where you just see that the public media
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stations are such an important part of the fabric of those communities.
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This is where people come together. This is where politicians come in
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for town halls and for debates. This is really a resource that the communities
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treasure and would not exist were there not federal dollars to help.
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AMNA NAWAZ: You mentioned that you see this as a very serious effort in terms of the funds.
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We should note there's been Republicans who have long sought to cut funding for public
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media. So is there something different about this effort this time around?
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PAULA KERGER: Yes. I mean, here's the irony. I mean, we have always received bipartisan
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support. If you go back over the years, some of our biggest champions have been
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from both sides of the aisle. I think this feels a little different because
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the country feels a little different. I think the debates around our priorities
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in terms of what we fund have been different conversations than we have had in the past.
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For us, as I look at this as -- and for many of our stations for whom this would
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be an existential crisis, I think it's very important that we make sure that,
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as those final decisions are made, the legislators understand the consequence of it,
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because the problem is, once these stations are gone, they're gone. It's not that, well,
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maybe in a year we will bring them back or so forth once they're gone.
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And you have to understand that in public broadcasting, we do a lot of work that people
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see. We also do a lot of work that people do not see. And one example is, our public broadcasting
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system really provides a lot of public service in terms of the use of the technology. So we use
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our broadcast as the emergency backup for emergency alerts for the country.
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And you need 100 percent coverage to make that happen.
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So there are a lot of arguments that we make around the importance of it.
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But I think the most is that this is really critical funding put in places that need it.
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AMNA NAWAZ: There's also a couple of arguments we have heard from the administration as they look
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to cut those funds. They argue that, by covering issues like race in America and gender issues,
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that public media is broadly engaging in what they call cultural indoctrination.
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They also cite, among other things, the former NPR editor Uri Berliner's accusations
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that he said his network pushed progressive viewpoints. That was at NPR, which is not PBS,
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to be clear. But do you worry about that? And what's your response to that accusation?
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PAULA KERGER: Well, I think we work very hard, and I'm proud of this broadcast of
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its focus on bringing the most important stories forward.
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I think that, when you look at news, it's important that we are here to be covering the
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important stories, whether they're international or national or local, and that's the work that
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our stations do. You also have to remember that it's like 10 percent of the work that we
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do is news. The rest of it is programming around science and history and so forth.
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A big part of what we do is for kids. We do eight hours
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of kids programming a day on most of our stations.
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And when you consider the fact that 50 percent of children in this country do
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not attend formal pre-K, 50 percent, and the whole goal when "Sesame Street" was created,
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when Mister Rogers' first began looking into a camera and telling children that
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they are perfect just the way they are, that was really the beginning
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of an effort to try to make sure that kids that do not have access to a wide range of
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resources and possibilities would have that through their public television stations.
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And that's what we do. We're parents' first partners. We're deeply involved
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in providing content for classrooms. And we are there with a wide array
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of programming. That's what is the role of public broadcasting.
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AMNA NAWAZ: I know you have seen some of the latest Pew Research data as well in terms of
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how Americans are looking at this. There are some 43 percent of Americans who say that NPR
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and PBS should continue to receive federal funding. They want to see that continue.
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Some 24 percent say Congress should remove that funding; 33 percent say that they're not sure.
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So that means about 57 percent of Americans are either not sure or don't want to see
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federal funds continue for public media. What does that say to you?
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PAULA KERGER: Well, that's one survey. I mean, we have done a series of surveys recently
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that show that 65 percent of Trump voters support funding for public broadcasting.
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I think that, again, as I travel around and meet people in communities that are part of the
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fabric of the communities that we do serve, they tell us that what you do
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is tremendously important, and they especially love their local stations.
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They treasure what they do, and they want to see them continue.
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So I think you talked a few minutes ago about the conversations we have on the
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Hill. I actually don't spend a lot of time on the Hill. The people that do are those that
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are viewers of their local stations. Those are the voices that I think
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legislators want to hear. They want to hear from their constituents.
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They want to know that, as they are wrestling with what to fund or not fund,
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that this is something of value. And so, as we look forward over the next weeks,
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I know that many have called and said, what can we do? I said, well, if you have an opinion,
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let your legislator know how you feel about support of your local stations.
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AMNA NAWAZ: Paula Kerger, CEO of PBS, thank you so much for being here. Really appreciate it.
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