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17 May 2013

To life, not martyrdom 16MAI13

L'CHAIM, to life Herb Silverman! But I have a problem with your article. You reference people committing acts of violence in the "name" of their religion as religious. The are not religious, they are not people of faith, because the teachings of Christianity, Islam, Judaism, and Buddhism (the religions mentioned in your article) do not allow for such actions. People who pervert and twist their claimed religion to justify their violent actions are hypocrites, guilty of apostasy, and the media does all religions a disservice by referring to these people as religious and / or as adherents of any faith. From the Washington Post.....

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Recently, I read two articles about dying for a cause. The first, on these pages, by Sally Quinn, addressed the Dalai Lama’s lack of compassion for not criticizing the self-immolation of more than 100 Tibetans since 2009 to protest China’s occupation of Tibet.  The second article concerned 813 Italians who were just declared “saints” by the Catholic Church because they chose death in 1480 rather than convert to Islam.  
Different religions have formulated arguments about what constitutes a “just war” and causes worth dying for. Some of history’s most brutal wars have been holy wars, perpetrated by people who expected heavenly rewards for killing countless “heretics.” They justified their massacres because designated infidels either did not believe in “the one true god” or did not worship the one true god in the one true way. Most of the civilized world now condemns those who take innocent lives, regardless of the cause. More nuanced is whether we can justify taking our own life for a cause, the theme in both articles mentioned above.
I can respect, if not agree with, those who believe their suicide will save additional lives and increase the happiness of others. That was the goal of the self-immolators trying to free Tibet and bring back the Dalai Lama. On the other hand, I always look for ways to resolve problems without loss of life. This is why war must always be a last resort.
I reserve my harshest criticisms of religion for its practices that intrude on the lives of those outside the religion. This doesn’t mean I can easily ignore religious practices I find ridiculous, which brings me to Catholic sainthood. How many miracles does it take to change a dead human into a saint? The Catholic Church says two, but no such miracle has ever been as documented as, say, would be a televised prayer that results in a light bulb changing itself.
While the Tibet article included comments from those for and against self-immolation as a tactic, the saint article unfortunately included no skeptics.
It’s bad enough that an organization puts its time and money into so-called documenting that some of its adherents were cured of an incurable disease solely by praying to a dead person. But I’m more bothered by the church’s fast track to sainthood called “martyrdom.” A person who dies for belief in Catholicism can become a saint without performing two post-death miracles. This was the case for the “Martyrs of Otranto” who defied demands by Turkish invaders that they convert to Islam.


I have two problems with this.
First, this dual track to sainthood puts belief above behavior. No matter how good a life you led, even by Catholic standards, you would still have to perform two miracles after death if you didn’t die as a martyr. If you threw yourself in front a train to stop it from killing a hundred children, two miracles would still be needed. In other words, you would not be as worthy as one who led a morally corrupt life but died while refusing to convert.
Second, the Catholic Church claims to stand for the “culture of life,” which might be just a code for anti-abortion. I admire people who value life enough to make necessary adjustments to stay alive. Saying you have converted doesn’t have to mean it’s true. If someone puts a gun to my head and says he will shoot me unless I pray to Zeus, I’ll pray to Zeus. Such a prayer would hurt nobody, and it would save a life.
As a Jewish atheist, I don’t want to be accused of just Catholic bashing. So I’ll criticize a similar Jewish event. After Rome destroyed the Second Temple in 70 C.E., surviving Zealots fled Jerusalem to the fortress of Masada, near the Dead Sea. According to the historian Josephus, after a three-year siege the Zealots took their own lives rather than forfeit their freedom to the Romans.
Had they been Catholics instead of Jews, these martyrs undoubtedly would have been declared saints. I again would have had more admiration for those who chose to live and work to change their culture peacefully. Today, the term “Masada complex” is applied to Israelis who prefer to fight at all costs rather than compromise land for peace.
So to those who are religious and to those who are not, I’ll end with a Jewish toast:L’Chaim, To Life.
Herb Silverman is founder and President Emeritus of the Secular Coalition for America, author of “Candidate Without a Prayer: An Autobiography of a Jewish Atheist in the Bible Belt,” and Distinguished Professor Emeritus of Mathematics at the College of Charleston.

Top 5 Social Media Scams

I just don't get the whole deception on the computer thing. Here are some common sense suggestions to help protect you and your computer those who will take advantage of you if you let them.


We’re wired to be social creatures, and sites like Twitter and Facebook have capitalized on this to great success. According to its COO Sheryl Sandberg, Facebook draws 175 million logins every day.
But with this tremendous popularity comes a dark side as well. Virus writers and other cybercriminals go where the numbers are -- and that includes popular social media sites. To help you avoid a con or viral infection, we’ve put together this list of the top five social media scams.
5. Chain Letters
You’ve likely seen this one before -- the dreaded chain letter has returned. It may appear in the form of, "Retweet this and Bill Gates will donate $5 million to charity!" But hold on, let’s think about this. Bill Gates already does a lot for charity. Why would he wait for something like this to take action? Answer: He wouldn’t. Both the cause and claim are fake.
So why would someone post this? Good question. It could be some prankster looking for a laugh, or a spammer needing "friends" to hit up later. Many well-meaning people pass these fake claims onto others. Break the chain and inform them of the likely ruse.
4. Cash Grabs
By their very nature, social media sites make it easy for us to stay in touch with friends, while reaching out to meet new ones. But how well do you really know these new acquaintances? That person with the attractive profile picture who just friended you -- and suddenly needs money -- is probably some cybercriminal looking for easy cash. Think twice before acting. In fact, the same advice applies even if you know the person.
Picture this: You just received an urgent request from one of your real friends who "lost his wallet on vacation and needs some cash to get home." So, being the helpful person you are, you send some money right away, per his instructions. But there’s a problem: Your friend never sent this request. In fact, he isn’t even aware of it. His malware-infected computer grabbed all of his contacts and forwarded the bogus email to everyone, waiting to see who would bite.
Again, think before acting. Call your friend. Inform him of the request and see if it's true. Next, make sure your computer isn't infected as well.
3. Hidden Charges
"What type of STAR WARS character are you? Find out with our quiz! All of your friends have taken it!" Hmm, this sounds interesting, so you enter your info and cell number, as instructed. After a few minutes, a text turns up. It turns out you’re more Yoda than Darth Vader. Well, that’s interesting … but not as much as your next month’s cell bill will be. You’ve also just unwittingly subscribed to some dubious service that charges $9.95 every month.
As it turns out, that "free, fun service" is neither. Be wary of these bait-and-switch games. They tend to thrive on social sites.
2. Phishing Requests
"Somebody just put up these pictures of you drunk at this wild party! Check 'em out here!" Huh? Let me see that! Immediately, you click on the enclosed link, which takes you to your Twitter or Facebook login page. There, you enter your account info -- and a cybercriminal now has your password, along with total control of your account.
How did this happen? Both the email and landing page were fake. That link you clicked took you to a page that only looked like your intended social site. It's called phishing, and you've just been had. To prevent this, make sure your Internet security includes antiphishing defenses. Many freeware programs don't include this essential protection.
1. Hidden URLs
Beware of blindly clicking on shortened URLs. You'll see them everywhere on Twitter, but you never know where you're going to go since the URL ("Uniform Resource Locator," the Web address) hides the full location. Clicking on such a link could direct you to your intended site, or one that installs all sorts of malware on your computer.
URL shorteners can be quite useful. Just be aware of their potential pitfalls and make sure you have real-time protection against spyware and viruses.
Bottom line: Sites that attract a significant number of visitors are going to lure in a criminal element, too. If you take security precautions ahead of time, such as using antivirus and anti-spyware protection, you can defend yourself against these dangers and surf with confidence.
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16 May 2013

Amy Macdonald - Flower of Scotland (HQ) (VIDEO) & IRVINE CLAN

2014, the year Scotland becomes independent again! My mother's family are the Irvine's of Drum, and though the family lands and castle are now held by the Sottish Land Trust there is still a small plot of land held by the Irvine clan that allows us to remain a clan of Scotland. Check out this rendition of O Flower of Scotland to get a feel for the national pride that has only grown in strength since this video from 2010. I hope any members of the Irvine family who are interested in family history will contact me (info in my profile) and they can also view my ancestry.com page
Tartan image: Irvine of Drum. Click on this image to see a more detailed version.



Uploaded on Oct 12, 2010
Scottish singer/songwriter Amy Macdonald is joined by the Tartan Army. Singing the national anthem of Scotland before Scotland-Spain.

O flower of Scotland
When will we see your like again
That fought and died for
Your wee bit hill and glen
And stood against him
Proud Edward's army
And sent him homeward
Tae think again

The hills are bare now
And autumn leaves lie thick and still
O'er land that is lost now
Which those so dearly held
And stood against him
Proud Edward's army
And sent him homeward
Tae think again

Those days are passed now
And in the past they must remain
But we can still rise now
And be the nation again
That stood against him
Proud Edward's army
And sent him homeward
Tae think again
 Our Rampant design  Our Rampant design O Flower of Scotland - Scotland's (unofficial) National Anthem.
The Flower of Scotland, written by Roy Williamson of The Corries, is the official anthem of
the Scottish Football Team and the Scottish Rugby Team.

14 May 2013

STUDENT DEBT RELIEF: SIGN ON: HELP PASS SENATOR WARREN'S FIRST BILL 14MAI13

THE same wall street banks that brought our nation's economy to it's knees is making huge profits off student college loans, at taxpayer expense! Sen Elizabeth Warren D MA is introducing legislation to end this excessive profiteering, and would like to introduce her legislation with as many signatures of ordinary citizens as possible on her petition to Congress to show the American people want college to be affordable for all who want to go. Check this out from the PCCC and click the link to sign if you agree.

Last year, I ran for Senate on the idea of sticking up for the little guy against a system rigged for the big guy.
It's outrageous that the Federal Reserve loans money to big banks at 0.75% interest, while interest rates for college loans will be 9 times higher starting July 1. That's why I introduced a bill saying college students should get the same low rate.
I am proud that more than 385,000 Americans have signed a petition to Congress supporting by proposal -- in less than a week.
Can you join them, and add to the momentum? Click here.
Members of the the Progressive Change Campaign Committee, Democracy for America, MoveOn, Credo Action, Daily Kos, and others will be critical to passing this bill into law.
As people like you stand with me in this fight, Washington takes notice -- and for that, I can't thank you enough.
The simple fact is that big Wall Street banks wrecked our economy. College students did not.
Students are the future of our country and our economy, and they should get the same good deals as Wall Street – they shouldn’t be saddled with debt.
Will you join me, and add your voice to 385,000 others who support investing in our students? Click here.
PCCC members were with me every step of the way in my campaign. Now, I need your help to build momentum for my first bill in the U.S. Senate.
Thank you.
Sen. Elizabeth Warren 

11 May 2013

Maine legislature votes to overturn Citizens United bringing the total to 13 states 6MAI13

CITIZEN outrage over the Supreme Court citizens united ruling continues to grow across the nation and Maine becomes the 13th state who's legislature is calling on Congress to pass a constitutional amendment to overturn citizens united vs FEC. From Daily Kos....

"There’s class warfare, all right, but it’s my class, the rich class, that’s making war, and we’re winning." —Warren Buffett


State flag of Maine
Maine became the 13th state in the nation to call for a constitutional amendment to overturn the U.S. Supreme Court’s ruling in Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission. Twenty-five House Republicans (in the state House) and five Senate Republicans joined Democrats to “call upon each Member of the Maine Congressional Delegation to actively support and promote in Congress an amendment to the United States Constitution on campaign finance.”
Maine joins West Virginia, Colorado, Montana, New Jersey, Connecticut, Massachusetts, California, Rhode Island, Maryland, Vermont, New Mexico and Hawaii in calling for that Constitutional amendment. Which means momentum:
The swift action by both houses of the Maine legislature, coming less than a month after West Virginia urged Congress to act, confirms the momentum that is building for the movement, which has been backed by almost 500 communities nationwide. Though media coverage has been scant, it is rare in recent history for a grassroots movement to amend the constitution to have attracted so much official support at the municipal, county and state levels nationwide.
It's a grassroots movement with both momentum and bipartisan support. Outside of the U.S. Congress and the Supreme Court, Republicans hate corporate spending in campaigns [pdf] almost as much as Democrats (71 percent versus 73 percent, respectively) and want to see reform. A Constitutional amendment is not an easy thing to achieve, but the time is right for this one.

ORIGINALLY POSTED TO JOAN MCCARTER ON MON MAY 06, 2013 AT 02:47 PM PDT.

ALSO REPUBLISHED BY DAILY KOS.

THIS WEEK IN CIVIL LIBERTIES 10MAI13

HERE it is, This Week in Civil Liberties from the ACLU! 

By Rekha Arulanantham, ACLU at 5:02pm
The Supreme Court of which state granted a stay of execution to Willie Manning, who may be innocent of the crime for which he was convicted?
True or false? Eye-tracking technology could pose a risk to privacy if inappropriately used to discover drug and alcohol use, mental and psychological illnesses, sexuality and other traits and behaviors.
Documents released this week suggest that which federal agencies read private emails without obtaining a warrant first?
Which federal agency has continued to increase its surveillance of Americans in the past year, according to the Department of Justice’s annual report?
A report by which organization shows the racial gap in U.S. wealth creation grew substantially during the Great Recession?
Willie Manning Is Scheduled To Die. Shouldn't Mississippi Find Out If He's Innocent First?
Willie Manning was granted this Tuesday a stay of execution by the State Supreme Court. Mississippi was steamrolling toward execution despite compelling evidence that Willie Manning may be an innocent man.
Manning's case has many of the hallmarks of those of other innocent death row exonerees: false snitch testimony, junk science, and racial bias. The prosecutors in Manning's case, like in all too many cases, stacked the deck by systematically removing African-American jurors from Manning's trial. Manning, an African-American man, was convicted of the murders of two white college students.
The Privacy-Invading Potential of Eye Tracking Technology
Eye-tracking technology received new attention recently due to its inclusion in the Samsung Galaxy IV phone, where it can (with mixed results, according to reviewers) let users scroll the screen with their eyes or dim the screen when they look away. Clearly this is a technology that has the potential for a lot of clever applications. But what are the privacy implications?
FBI Documents Suggest Feds Read Emails Without a Warrant
New documents from the FBI and U.S. Attorneys’ offices paint a troubling picture of the government’s email surveillance practices. Not only does the FBI claim it can read emails and other electronic communications without a warrant—even after a federal appeals court ruled that doing so violates the Fourth Amendment—but the documents strongly suggest that different U.S. Attorneys’ offices around the country are applying conflicting standards to access communications content.
They’re Watching: FBI Business Records Requests Jump 900 Percent Compared to 2009
Last week served as yet another reminder of the threats posed to Americans' privacy by the post-Patriot Act surveillance state. According to the Department of Justice's annual report, FISA applications to the secretive Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC) in 2012 revealed a continued increase in the FBI's surveillance of Americans. The report covers the Bureau's requests for electronic and physical surveillance, secret court orders under Section 215 of the Patriot Act, and National Security Letters (NSLs).
The Racial Wealth Accumulation Gap and Why ACLU is Suing Morgan Stanley for Racial Discrimination
This month, the Urban Institute joined an emerging consensus of researchers and social scientists with a new report revealing, in the starkest terms, our nation's vast and widening racial gap in wealth creation. With this report, Less than Equal: Racial Disparities in Wealth Accumulation, the Urban Institute joins a growing body of research showing that in America today, wealth is not colorblind and that during the recession this gap has widened.
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A Mother's Love 10MAY13

A mother's love, thoughts, beliefs, faith and prayer at the internment of her daughter. It is just wrong that a parent should have to bury their child, and we will never understand why until the end of time. 
Yesterday Kay Stewart shared this at the cemetery as we laid to rest the ashes of her first-born daughter Katherine (“Katie”).
Katie and Kay, photo courtesy Kay and Gordon Stewart
Katie and Kay, photo courtesy Kay and Gordon Stewart


For Christ to have gone before us,
To have kept us from ultimate sadness,
To be our brother, our advocate,
The One who ushers in the Kingdom,
Here
And the One to come,
Does not keep us from our digging today.
We still gather here and throw the dirt on our sacred dust,
We take the shovel like all those gone before us
And surrender to the Unknowable—
The place where
Love and Beauty and Kindness grow wild.
Where sorrow has no needs,
Where there is all beginning and
Nothing ends.
I know this Love of hers lives on. I feel it.
I watch it in many streams of synchronicity,
Where my heart leaps from memory’s knowing,
Where I share a breath from her beyond.
And then I cry in secret,
Begging that she return
On my terms.
But if my begging is selfish,
The answer to it is not.
If I but knew the splendor of that Place where Love lives,
I would marvel in her good fortune
And ponder her grace inside a timeless waiting for us,
A begging for our good fortune
To come on her terms.
We live our lives in time.
She lives all time as Splendor.
We are bound between this stalemate
And the mystery that is our promise.
Until then we have no other luxury than
To shout her precious memories to the sky
In loud thanksgiving that Love herself lived with us awhile.
Then, because we live with fuller hearts
From knowing more than before our loss,
We turn our shovels over
As those with little other choice for now.
For now we dig.
And shed our tears
With greater Trust.
Thy Kingdom come,
Thy will be done,
On earth as it is
In heaven.
- Kay Stewart, Chaska, Minn., May 9, 2013,
the third anniversary of loss and fuller hearts.
Kay Stewart is a licensed alcohol and chemical addiction counselor with the Addiction Medicine Clinic of Hennepin County Medical Center in downtown Minneapolis.  She is a graduate of the University of Nebraska and Austin Theological Seminary (Austin, Texas), and writes for www.rawgrief.com. She lives in Chaska, Minn.

What would scented underwear for Irish men smell like? 8MAI13

HAHAHAHA!!!! This is too good not to share!!!!


We’ve had a think about this (sadly) and come up with a few options.



TODAY IT HAS emerged that a French underwear company is to produce scented underwear for men.
It certainly sounds very exciting but it got us thinking about what scented underwear for Irish men would smell like.
1. Spuds
26/7/2012 Irish Agriculture Industry
Mark Stedman / Photocall Ireland
If Irish men are going to smell like anything in their nether regions it might as well be the surprisingly fresh smell of potatoes being peeled.
It would be an evocative, invigorating scent that reminds you of home.
Or it’d make your privates smell like a mucky field, we’re not sure.
2. Tayto
taytochocolate
Our own box of Tayto chocolate from earlier this year
Sure, some of you might suggest King crisps or even Meanies (Each to their own) but if the recent Tayto chocolate bar frenzy is anything to go by, it’s the perfect thing to try merging with the scent of underpants.
Imagine that unique Tayto-whiff erupting from your crotch area, you’d have a sense of national pride and identity you never knew existed.
Or you’d quite literally have a cheesy crotch.
It could be risky.
3. Italia 90
irishjersey
Palers / Tumblr
If you want your underwear to smell like anything then it should be this moment of sporting glory.
Italia 90 boxers would smell like optimism, newly discovered Irish pride and a bit of sweat and would be the most inspiring pair of pants you’d ever own.
4. Chipper chips
22/2/2010. National Fish and Chips Day
James Horan/Photocall Ireland
We might have to leave the vinegar out but imagine that appetising smell of thickly cut chipper chips (none of your McDonalds messing here) and all those oils that are involved.
It would be a winning underwear smell or at the very least have you craving a big bag of chips every other day.
5. Want
WRANGLER JEANS LAUNCH
Eamonn Farrell/Photocall Ireland
Many an Irish man have the smell of want on them from time to time so maybe their jocks should do the same?
The smell of want would mix desperation, notes of the Lynx Africa you used to wear as a teen with a patch of the beer soaked scents that signify a cheeky, end-of-the-night score.
6. Guinness
guinnesschocolate
Conor Behan / DailyEdge.ie
Guinness have already branched out into chocolate and merchandise galore so why not offer the Irish man some scented underpants?
We’re not sure if we’d include the whiff of Guinness farts but who wouldn’t want their underwear to smell like stout?
(Lots of people we would imagine)
7. Tea
A cup of tea and chocolate digestives will fix everything (if you're Irish anyway)
via Imgur
Whether you favour Barry’s Tea or Lyons we reckon all the tea companies are missing out by not letting us have tea scented underpants.
Imagine the hearty smell of a fresh cup of tea with just a hint of milk (no innuendos please) and perhaps a drop of sugar.
It is that unmistakeable Irish whiff that would calm you down and make you feel like a million euro all at once.

Tom Coburn says after national park gun ban lifted, violent crime fell by 85 percent 9MAI13

sen tom coburn r OK deliberately lied on Morning Joe about the the level of violent crime in our National Parks since the law was changed allowing guns in the parks since 2010. Looking at the stats there is no way his claim can be attributed to an error. He is taking his orders from the nra and is employing their tactics of deception, misrepresentation, manipulation and lying, performing as the good nra minion he is, in their campaign against gun control. One really has to ask how his willingness to be dishonest for political and financial gain squares with his professed Christian faith? That is something he will have to settle with God, along with his responsibility for any harm done to anyone as a result of his actions. From PolitiFact.....

The Truth-O-Meter Says:
Coburn

"In 2010, everybody said you can't dare let guns go into the national parks, and of course the rapes, murders, robberies and assaults are down about 85 percent since we did that."

Tom Coburn on Thursday, May 9th, 2013 in an interview with MSNBC's "Morning Joe"

Tom Coburn says after national park gun ban lifted, violent crime fell by 85 percent

During an interview on the MSNBC show Morning Joe, Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., argued for legislation he’s proposing that would allow guns to be carried into lands controlled by the Army Corps of Engineers.
To make the case that guns make places safer, Coburn cited a dramatic before-and-after statistic that stems from the lifting of a ban on guns in national parks. Coburn was a leader in the effort to get Congress to approve the change. President Barack Obama signed the national park provision into law, and it took effect in February 2010.
"In 2010," Coburn said on Morning Joe, "everybody said you can't dare let guns go into the national parks, and of course the rapes, murders, robberies and assaults are down about 85 percent since we did that."
That’s a pretty stunning drop. Is it accurate?
When we checked with Coburn’s office, John Hart, a spokesman, acknowledged that his senator had misspoken in a way that overstated the decline.
Hart said Coburn’s office had compared FBI crime data on National Park Service land from 2008 to 2011, the most recent year available. By the office’s calculations, the number of violent incidents actually dropped by 12 percent, not 85 percent.
"The numbers show crime rates have declined, but he misspoke when he mentioned 85 percent," Hart said. "On balance, the facts support our conclusion that crime rates would go down under our policy, not the conclusion of the amendment’s critics who said that allowing guns in national parks would lead to more crime."
However, before we bless Coburn’s revised analysis, let’s look at the original data. Here’s a summary chart for violent crimes in the national parks between 2008 and 2011.

Year
Murder and
non-negligent manslaughter
Forcible rape
Robbery
Aggravated assault
Total violent crimes
2008
5
37
66
259
367
2009
3
34
64
206
307
2010
15
45
58
251
369
2011
7
34
58
224
323
Change, 2008-11
+40%
-8%
-12%
-14%
-12%
Change, 2009-11
+133%
0
-9%
+9%
+5%

A few issues jump out to us. First, murders actually went up between 2008 and 2011, contrary to what Coburn said.
More importantly, using 2008 as the "before" year in this before-and-after comparison amounts to cherry picking.
As we noted, the law went into effect in 2010, so the most obvious way to frame the comparison would be to use the data from 2009 (the last full year before the gun ban was lifted) and 2011 (the most recent year). And as it turns out, the comparison to 2009 is not nearly as favorable to Coburn’s overall point.
Between 2009 and 2011, these four categories of violent crimes actually rose collectively by 5 percent. Robberies did decline by 9 percent, but murders more than doubled (from a very small base), the number of rapes was stable and the tally of aggravated assaults -- by far the most common of these four crimes -- rose by 9 percent.
Meanwhile, it’s also worth noting that the number of crimes in national parks is generally pretty small, which makes it unclear how much stock anyone should place in year-to-year percentage increases and decreases.
Finally, we’ll point out that Coburn’s stated decline may -- or may not -- have been caused by the deterrence of having guns around. But if they were a cause for the decline from 2008 to 2011, what’s to stop someone from arguing that they were the cause of the increase from 2009 to 2011? The numbers alone simply don’t tell us.
Our ruling
On Morning Joe, Coburn said, "In 2010, everybody said you can't dare let guns go into the national parks, and of course the rapes, murders, robberies and assaults are down about 85 percent since we did that."
Coburn’s office acknowledges that he misspoke; they actually calculated a decline of 12 percent, which is dramatically lower than 85 percent.
But we find even the revised statistic to be questionable. It hinges on using 2008 data, when 2009 data would be more appropriate -- and a comparison using data from 2009 actually shows an increase in violent crime in national parks since the gun ban took effect. Meanwhile, it’s far from clear that guns had an influence on the relatively small number of crimes that take place in national parks.
We rate Coburn’s statement False.
About this statement:
Published: Thursday, May 9th, 2013 at 5:49 p.m.
Subjects: GunsRecreation
Sources:
Tom Coburn, interview on MSNBC’s Morning Joe, May 9, 2013
Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility, "Rising Tide of Violence," accessed May 9, 2013
Email interview with Jeff Ruch, executive director for Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility, May 9, 2013
Email interview with Kurt Repanshek, founder and editor-in-chief of National Parks Traveler, May 9, 2013
Email interview with Mike Litterst, acting chief spokesman for the National Park Service, May 9, 2013
Email interview with John Hart, spokesman for Tom Coburn, May 9, 2013
Written by: Louis Jacobson
Researched by: Louis Jacobson
Edited by: Angie Drobnic Holan