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Showing posts with label popular vote. Show all posts
Showing posts with label popular vote. Show all posts

04 February 2017

Meet the 'anarchists, thugs and paid protesters' Trump is warning about (warning: graphic images) 3FEB17

LOS ANGELES, CA - JANUARY 21:  A child marches during the Women's March on January 21, 2017 in Los Angeles, California. Tens of thousands of people took to the streets of Downtown Los Angeles for the Women's March in protest after the inauguration of President Donald Trump. Women's Marches are being held in cities around the world.  (Photo by Sarah Morris/Getty Images)
Los Angeles thug

ANYONE who opposes the policies of the drumpf/trump-pence administration is demonized as thugs, anarchist and paid protesters. How pathetic. Protesting, non-violent civil disobedience, expressing opinions are constitutionally guaranteed civil liberties, recognizing and respecting the rights of the American people come with the job of president, so they better get used to it.. From +Daily Kos .....
Meet the 'anarchists, thugs and paid protesters' Trump is warning about (warning: graphic images)
Don’t be fooled, America. Everyone loves the racist, bigoted, misogynistic popular vote loser, and if anyone tries to convince you otherwise, just remember that those massive protests across the country that you’ve been seeing on your TV—fake news!—are just a bunch of:
Here are some to watch for:
South Carolina anarchist (and obviously a thug supporter)
Los Angeles anarchist holding a thug
PARK CITY, UT - JANUARY 21:  Marchers during the Women's March on Main Street Park City on January 21, 2017 in Park City, Utah.  (Photo by Alberto E. Rodriguez/Getty Images)
Paid protesters in Utah with their paid for, thuggish signs
LOS ANGELES, CA - JANUARY 21:  Participants seen during the Women's March on January 21, 2017 in Los Angeles, California. Tens of thousands of people took to the streets of Downtown Los Angeles for the Women's March in protest after the inauguration of President Donald Trump. Women's Marches are being held in cities around the world. (Photo by Chelsea Guglielmino/Getty Images)
Clearly hiding their thuggish faces to avoid authorities ...
Thug jumping on anarchist while paid protester looks on
COLUMBIA, SC - JANUARY 21: Demonstrators participate in the March In Defense of Women's Rights at the South Carolina Statehouse January 21, 2017 in Columbia, South Carolina. The event was one of hundreds of rallies and marches in more than 20 different countries inspired by the Women's March in the nation's capital. (Photo by Sean Rayford/Getty Images)
Thug in a chokehold 
Add them all up and you get this:
You’ve been warned. Donald.

19 November 2016

Clinton's popular vote lead grows to 1.5 million with millions left to count—Donald flip flops & Final Vote Count 2016 18&13NOV16

People march and shout during an anti-Trump protest in Oakland, California on November 9, 2016..Thousands of protesters rallied across the United States expressing shock and anger over Donald Trump's election, vowing to oppose divisive views they say helped the Republican billionaire win the presidency. / AFP / Josh Edelson        (Photo credit should read JOSH EDELSON/AFP/Getty Images)
THERE is no way drumpf/trump-pence can claim an electoral victory or a mandate for establishing their neo-nazi fascist theocratic plutocracy. There are petition campaigns calling on the Electoral College to honor the popular vote. We can not give up until the Electoral College actually votes. This from +Daily Kos with a chance to sign one of the petitions below.

As it becomes clear that Donald Trump is on the road to becoming the single most unpopular president in the history of the United States, Trump had this to say on Twitter:

The Electoral College is actually genius in that it brings all states, including the smaller ones, into play. Campaigning is much different!
President-elect Donald Trump is the same liar he’s always been. Right now he’s won a big victory and his semi-magnanimous attitude is guaranteed to be temporary. Trump tweeted that out two days ago when the popular vote count showed that Clinton had just surpassed the 1 million mark. Today, Clinton has 1,439,123 more votes than Donald Trump and is projected to have around 2 million more when all is said and done. Remember, when you bring your great grandchildren to the Smithsonian decades from now, this tweet may be the only thing housed in the “honest things President (choke) Donald Trump ever said” wing of the museum:
Sign on to the petition and/or pass it on. Yes, it is an extremely unlikely scenario but there can never be enough recorded reminders of how unpopular Donald Trump is. At the very least you know, and I know, that it absolutely drives him mad—he’s still tweeting about it!

Final Vote Count 2016


All the ballots haven't been counted yet, but it looks like Hillary Clinton really did win the nationwide popular vote — if not the presidency — by a considerable margin.

Dan Evon
Nov 13, 2016
As we described at length in a separate article, an unusual feature of the Electoral College system employed by the United States for presidential elections is that the candidate who receives the most votes overall nationwide (i.e., "wins the popular vote") does not necessarily win the election. On four occasions prior to 2016 (most recently in 2000), the Electoral College installed in the White House a president who received fewer popular votes than his opponent. This phenomenon seemingly recurred in 2016, when Hillary Clinton apparently won the popular vote by a considerable margin but lost the election to opposing candidate Donald Trump.
The electoral/popular vote disparity prompted calls and petitions for the Electoral College delegates to ignore their pledges and instead cast their ballots for Hillary Clinton, the putative winner of the popular vote:
That movement led to false claims that Donald Trump had, in fact, won a fully reckoned popular vote in addition to the electoral vote:
It also led to false claims that Donald Trump would prove to also be the winner of the popular vote if all the ballots cast were actually counted:
First of all, [Clinton's] probably not going to win the actual number of votes cast. She may win the number of votes counted, but not the votes cast. States don’t count their absentee ballots unless the number of outstanding absentee ballots is larger than the state margin of difference. If there is a margin of 1,000 votes counted and there are 1,300 absentee ballots outstanding, then the state tabulates those. If the number of outstanding absentee ballots wouldn’t influence the election results, then the absentee ballots aren’t counted.
As of this writing, though, the ballots counted so far still show Hillary Clinton winning the national popular vote by a healthy margin of over 630,000 votes:
Moreover, the popular vote margin favoring Hillary Clinton is likely to grow rather than shrink as more of the remaining ballots are counted. A spreadsheet compiled by David Wasserman, an editor at Cook Political Report who is tracking turnout, shows Clinton up by over 700,000 votes as of this writing, and as the Atlanticnoted on 12 November 2016, the bulk of remaining uncounted ballots come from states that went heavily for the Democratic candidate:
“A majority of [uncounted ballots] are on the coasts, in New York, California, and Washington. She should be able to win those votes, probably 2-1.” By mid-December, when the Electoral College officially casts its ballots, Wasserman estimates that Clinton could be ahead by 2 percentage points in the popular vote.
What’s with the delay? Several states, notably California and Washington, have liberal absentee and mail-in voting laws. California, for instance, allows residents to submit ballots up to three days late (although they must be postmarked on or before Election Day). These provisions have made alternative voting pretty popular, and the ballots a bit harder to count. California alone has more than 4 million votes pending; Washington is waiting on another 700,000.
The notion that states don't count absentee ballots unless they are sufficient in number to change the outcome has been addressed (and refuted) by Vote.org:
Are absentee ballots counted?
Yes, all votes are counted, whether they're cast in-person or by absentee ballot.  
It is a common misconception that absentee ballots are only counted during very tight races.  This misconception stems from two things: one, absentee ballots are often counted for days after the election since many are coming from abroad; two, absentee ballots are often a small percentage of all voted ballots.  Many elections have a clear winner, so the absentee ballots that are still being counted after election night don't affect the results as predicted right after the polls close.  As absentee voting becomes more popular, however, an increasing number of elections are decided by absentee ballots.  
Likewise, the web site of the Federal Voting Assistance Program (FVAP) states:
Many absentee ballots are cast by voters who are unable to vote at their physical polling place due to being an active duty military member, a family member of someone on active duty or a U.S. citizen residing overseas. All ballots submitted according to State laws are counted in every election.
The media often will report the projected outcome of the election before all of the ballots are counted. In a close election, the media may report that the outcome cannot be announced until after the absentee ballots are counted. However, all ballots, including absentee ballots, are counted in the final totals for every election, and every vote (absentee or in-person) counts the same.
But as satisfying (or disappointing) as it may be to Hillary Clinton supporters to see that more Americans voted for her than for any other candidate — including Donald Trump — that fact won't change the outcome in any way:
While these uncounted votes may grow Clinton’s popular lead, they absolutely will not change the course of the election. That math is settled; Trump holds an insurmountable lead in swing states, which turned his popular defeat into a sizable electoral victory. All the votes in liberal-leaning New York and California will not change that.
ORIGINALLY PUBLISHED: 13 November 2016


12 November 2016

#NotMyPresident Protest & Electoral Mirage In 2012, Donald Trump tweeted that the electoral college system was a 'disaster for a democracy.' 10NOV16

I do not approve of the violence and property destruction committed by an extremely small minority at the #NotMyPresident protest around the country. BUT after reading drumpf's/trump's twitter storm after Obama defeated romney I am now in favor of the non-violent protest and have signed the petition calling on the Electoral College to honor the popular vote and to cast their votes to declare Clinton-Kaine the victor and Hillary Clinton the 45th President of The United States. Click here to sign the petition. The below from +PolitiFact+ABC News and +The Inquisitr 

CLAIM: Trump blasted the electoral college in 2012.
TRUE
ORIGIN:After the results of the 8 November 2016 made it clear Republican candidate Donald Trump had become president-elect of the United States, many disappointed citizens criticized the American electoral college system for selecting presidents that does not guarantee victory to the candidate who receives the most votes. Trump's rival, Hillary Clinton, narrowly won the popular vote count but lost the race under the electoral college system.
It is an ironic twist then that in 2012, when Republican candidate Mitt Romney lost to President Barack Obama, Trump lashed out about the electoral college system, even though Obama had won both the popular vote and the electoral college totals:



The electoral college system last sparked similar controversy in 2000, when George W. Bush was elected president without winning the popular vote.

Donald Trump's 2012 Election Tweetstorm Resurfaces as Popular and Electoral Vote Appear Divided

While Democrats are likely the party perturbed by the process this year, it was Trump, supporting Republican Mitt Romney in 2012, who challenged the viability of the practice by which the president is chosen.
“The electoral college is a disaster for a democracy,” wrote Trump as part of a tweetstorm on election night 2012.
“We can't let this happen. We should march on Washington and stop this travesty. Our nation is totally divided!”
“Lets fight like hell and stop this great and disgusting injustice! The world is laughing at us.”
“This election is a total sham and a travesty. We are not a democracy!”
“Our country is now in serious and unprecedented trouble...like never before.”
“Our nation is a once great nation divided!”
In additional tweets since deleted, Trump asks why Romney should lose if he received a greater number of votes. Upon the final tally, President Barack Obama defeated Romney in both the popular vote and electoral college.
“He lost the popular vote by a lot and won the election. We should have a revolution in this country!” said Trump in one deleted tweet, and “More votes equals a loss … revolution!” in another.
Donald Trump himself has never been a fan of the electoral college. When he thought Mitt Romney won the popular vote in 2012 but did not win the election, he called the electoral college “phony” and a “disaster” and called on America to protest the results.