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14 November 2017

At Least 4 Victims Killed After Shooting At School, Other Locations In California 14NOV17


YES, again.....

At Least 4 Victims Killed After Shooting At School, Other Locations In California



Updated at 2:25 p.m. ET
A shooter in Northern California has killed at least four people in a violent rampage that began at a home and ultimately included seven separate scenes, including an elementary school, officials say.
The shooter was killed by police, bringing the total death toll to five.
At least two children are among the wounded — a student at Rancho Tehama Elementary School in Tehama County was shot, and another child was shot in a truck along the road, according to Assistant Sheriff Phil Johnston. A woman driving the truck was also shot, and all three are being treated for their injuries.
The first calls about the shooting came in shortly before 8 a.m. local time on Tuesday, Johnston told reporters. The first calls described a shooting on Bobcat Lane; calls from multiple other sites soon came in, including the elementary school.
The subject appeared to be "randomly picking targets," Johnston said.
The suspected shooter, whose name has not been released, was involved in a "domestic violence incident" reported by neighbors before the shooting, he said.


A "semi-automatic rifle and two handguns" were recovered from the shooting scene, Johnston said.
Stinson, calling Action News Now from the police roadblock, told the news channel there is a shot-up, taped-off truck on the road, and several worried parents unable to get past the roadblock and struggling to find a cell phone signal.
Law enforcement officers from a range of agencies have responded to the incident, including highway patrol and the FBI. Johnston said there were more than 100 officers helping cover the multiple scenes.
"It's a very sad day for us here in Tehama County," he told Action News Now, tearing up.
This is a breaking news story. As often happens in situations like these, some information reported early may turn out to be inaccurate. We'll move quickly to correct the record and we'll only point to the best information we have at the time.

Could Ted Cruz measure have prevented the Texas church shooting? Not likely. 10NOV17


sen ted cruz r TX lies again, this time to in a vile attempt to place responsibility for the mass shooting in Sutherland Springs, TX on Senate Democrats. While it is true too many Democratic politicians are afraid of the nra and will not stand up to them in the US Congress and state legislatures cruz deliberately lies, deceives and manipulates the facts of this tragedy to make it seem like his legislation would have stopped it. Another example of the Christianity cruz practices, the one that allows lies and bearing false witness to make yourself look good and bring you political power. No wonder his face causes backpfeifengesicht. From PolitiFact.....

Could Ted Cruz measure have prevented the Texas church shooting? Not likely.

Reacting to the church shootings in Sutherland Springs, Texas, Sen. Ted Cruz said there could have been laws on the books to prevent what happened, had his opponents in Congress not defeated his proposal a few years ago.
"The Democrats filibustered the legislation that would’ve resulted in this shooter being in federal prison instead of murdering those innocents in that Texas church," Cruz said on Fox News on Nov. 6.
Cruz, a Republican, is talking about a failed amendment he co-sponsored to curtail an expansion of background checks and increase prosecution of people who lied about their criminal histories to obtain firearms.
He has a point that the Democrats didn’t back it, but he fails to mention that every amendment on the 2013 gun control bill faced the same hurdle, and a Democratic one also fell short.
While Democrats defeated his proposal, experts said it would not have made the crucial difference in this massacre for a couple of reasons.
Guidelines were already in the works
The Texas church shooter was discharged from the Air Force for bad conduct after he was court-martialed in 2012 for assaulting his wife and fracturing his stepson's skull. Federal law prohibited him from buying or possessing firearms after this conviction, but he got past the background check system because the Air Force failed to enter the shooter’s felony into the background check database.
So when he purchased two guns at the San Antonio gun shop Academy Sports + Outdoors, both sales were approved by the National Instant Criminal Background Check System.
When we asked Cruz’s office for details, they softened what Cruz originally said, saying his legislation would have "increased the chances of preventing the Air Force error that led to the failure to submit the relevant information to NICS."
The amendment pushed for clearer guidance on submissions of federal records to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (mandated by NICS Improvement Amendments Act of 2007) and required that federal agencies submit plans for making the information available.
"The only possible contribution may have been that the reporting requirement to the AG might have led the Defense Department and the Air Force to realize that the procedures they had in place needed enhancement," said Geoffrey Corn, a law professor at South Texas College of Law Houston.
But the language was a near replica of President Barack Obama’s Jan. 16, 2013 memorandum to the Justice Department, which officials were already trying to implement.
Molly Moran, who served as the Principal Deputy Associate Attorney General from 2014 to 2016, said she and her colleagues at the Justice Department worked from 2013 until the end of Obama’s second term in implementing the memo.
It made no difference in the Texas church shooting. The Air Force needed to submit the shooter’s 2012 court-martial, and it failed to do so.
Scaling back penalties for failure to share
Cruz said on Fox that a lack of reporting of federal and state records to the background check system was a problem. But his legislation did not seem to make this easier. The amendment eliminated sanctions for states that failed to submit records and lowered the cap on grant money to help states submit them from $100 million to $20 million.
The original bill from then-Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., would have expanded background checks on purchases from only federally licensed gun dealers to all transfers, even private ones among family members, with few exceptions. But the Grassley-Cruz amendment chucked the expansion of background checks and even allowed for the interstate sale and transportation of firearms.
"If anything, the only way this would have affected the Texas shooting would be to make it easier for the shooter to attack a church in a neighboring state instead," said Gregory Koger, a political science professor at the University of Miami.
Prosecution of lying on background checks
Cruz also summoned a familiar talking point against gun regulation that few background check lies (where felons say they are not felons) are prosecuted. His amendment created a task force to increase these prosecutions, but it did not mandate that the Justice Department prosecute all of them.
Enhanced prosecution efforts still would not have put the shooter behind bars. Without the court-martial in the database, the shooter would still have passed the background check after marking that he was not a felon.
"He could have been prosecuted had his lie been known by prosecutors, but they had no reason to investigate this until after the shooting," said Adam Winkler, a law professor at University of California, Los Angeles.
The filibuster aspect
Reid set a 60-vote threshold on all amendments to his Safe Communities, Safe Schools Act of 2013 to prevent a situation in which the amendment passed by a bare majority and then was filibustered — by the Republican minority.
Cruz’s amendment failed 52-48, with nine Democrats voting for it and two Republicans voting against (Mark Kirk of Illinois and Mike Lee of Utah). So did the bipartisan Toomey-Manchin background check amendment favored by Democrats, which got 54 votes.
Experts said it was fair to call this a filibuster, though Reid attained the Senate's unanimous consent for the 60-vote threshold.
"The notion that the Democrats are responsible for the failure of this proposal ignores the fact that the GOP was filibustering the underlying bill, which had all the same provisions except the state-to-state expansion of gun rights and a requirement to expand background checks," Koger said.
Our ruling
Cruz said, "The Democrats filibustered the legislation that would’ve resulted in this shooter being in federal prison."
The amendment Cruz cosponsored, which was defeated largely by Democrats after failing to reach a 60-vote threshold, strengthened efforts to prosecute people who lied about their criminal histories to obtain firearms. But the shooter in this case wouldn’t have showed up as having lied because of the Air Force’s failure to report his felony.
The Cruz proposal also aimed to facilitate reporting to the instant background check system with guidelines and deadlines for federal agencies, including the armed services. While similar action by the Obama Justice Department around the same time didn’t help, Cruz’s clarifications becoming law may have. But it’s impossible to say with any certainty.
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Ted Cruz
U.S. senator from Texas

"The Democrats filibustered the legislation that would’ve resulted in this shooter being in federal prison instead of murdering those innocents in that Texas church."

About this statement:

Published: Friday, November 10th, 2017 at 12:00 p.m.
Researched by: Manuela Tobias
Edited by: Katie Sanders
Subjects: Guns

Sources:

Email interview with Phil Novack, Ted Cruz spokesman, Nov. 7, 2017
The Washington Post, Ted Cruz’s claim on gun background check prosecutions, April 12, 2013
The Washington Post, The gun amendments need 60 votes to pass but why?, April 17, 2013
Plain blog about politics, Manchin-Toomey and the Filibuster, April 17, 2013
Congress.gov, Safe Communities, Safe Schools Act of 2013, March 22, 2013
Congress.gov, Manchin-Toomey amendment, April 11, 2013
Senate.gov, Manchin-Toomey roll call vote, April 17, 2013
Senate.gov, Grassley-Cruz roll call vote, April 17, 2013
Phone interview with Molly Moran, former Principal Deputy Associate Attorney General, Acting Assistant Attorney General for the Civil Rights Division and Counselor and Deputy Chief of Staff to Attorney General Eric Holder, Nov. 8, 2017
Email interview with Adam Winkler, law professor at University of California, Los Angeles, Nov. 8, 2017
Email interview with Phil Cook, public policy and sociology professor at Duke University, Nov. 7, 2017
Email interview with Geoffrey Corn, law professor at South Texas College of Law Houston, Nov. 8, 2017
Email interview with Jonathan Bernstein, political scientist and Bloomberg View columnist, Nov. 8, 2017
Email interview with Gregory Koger, professor of political science at the University of Miami, Nov. 8, 2017

12 November 2017

Donald Trump wrongly repeats that Chicago has strongest gun laws 7NOV17

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Donald Trump
President of the United States

Chicago is "the city with the strongest gun laws in our nation."
GUN CONTROL in the U.S. It isn't that he made an innocent mistake here, NOT MY pres drumpf/trump is a serial, pathological liar, and in spite of knowing that right wing evangelical Christians are still supporting him and NOT MY vp pence. I think drumpf/trump chose Chicago to lie about because that is where the Obamas are from and drumpf/trump is obsessed about his "presidency" languishing in the shadows of Obama's. From PolitiFact.....

Donald Trump wrongly repeats that Chicago has strongest gun laws

By Jon Greenberg 
President Donald Trump might be in Asia, but violence on the homefront followed him to South Korea.
In a joint press conference with South Korean President Moon Jae-in, a reporter asked Trump if he would consider extreme vetting for people trying to buy a gun in the wake of the mass shooting at a Texas church.
Trump said a longer waiting period would have made no difference and then drew on a familiar talking point.
"You look at the city with the strongest gun laws in our nation, is Chicago, and Chicago is a disaster," Trump said.
Trump used this line during the presidential campaign, with particular emphasis on Chicago’s high murder rate. Our partners at PolitiFact Illinois said he had a point about the murders, but his description of the Windy City having the toughest gun laws was way off the mark. Since then, the administration has taken the line even further into inaccurate territory.
Here’s why.
There are two ways to measure the toughness of gun laws. You can look at the rules controlling gun ownership and the penalties for misuse of a weapon.
From 1982 to 2010, Chicago prohibited people from keeping handguns in their homes. When Washington, D.C., saw a similar ban overturned, Chicago did have the toughest gun law in the country. That lasted about two years. The U.S. Supreme Court overturned the Chicago ordinance in 2010. The plaintiffs in the case of McDonald vs. City of Chicago argued that the ban left them vulnerable to criminals, and the court agreed. The court said that the Second and 14th Amendments protected the right to bear arms and that neither Chicago nor Illinois could interfere with that.
At one time, the state of Illinois prevented gun owners from carrying a concealed weapon. That ended in 2013 when the state became the last in the country to allow the practice.
To get a gun in Chicago, you must take a firearms training class and get a Chicago firearms permit. The course costs between $100 and $150 and the permit costs $100. You would also need a state firearms owner identification card, which can take as many as 50 days for processing.
It’s harder and requires more time to do the same in New York. It takes about three to six months to get a permit and costs over $400. And unlike Chicago, New York runs its own concealed carry permit process, as does Los Angeles.
Chicago also isn't particularly tough when it comes to enforcement.
2014 Chicago Sun Times analysis found that Chicago judges tended to hand down the minimum sentence of one year for illegal gun possession while the maximum is three years. Felons with a weapon got four-year sentences on average while they could have received 10.
On the state level, the Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence, a pro-gun control group, gives many states higher rankings for restricting gun ownership and use. A total of seven states, including New York, Massachusetts, Connecticut, New Jersey, Maryland, California and Hawaii, have rules that go beyond what Illinois has.
The group said Illinois could bring up its score if it allowed local governments to pass gun laws, required guns be stored safely at home and gave local law enforcement more leeway to deny conceal carry permits.
The one area where Chicago is trying to reduce access to weapons is by not allowing gun stores or firing ranges to open within the city limits. So far, courts have ruled against Chicago.
We reached out to the White House and did not hear back.
Our ruling
Trump said Chicago has the strongest gun laws in the nation. The statement is years out of date. After a Supreme Court ruling, Chicago residents can own handguns and carry them unseen on the streets. A national gun control group puts seven states above Illinois in regulating gun ownership.
Trump needs to refresh this talking point. We rate this claim Pants on Fire.

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Published: Tuesday, November 7th, 2017 at 2:53 p.m.
Researched by: Matt DietrichJon Greenberg
Edited by: Katie Sanders
Subjects: Guns

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