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19 November 2015

CHRISTIAN GROUPS CENSURE GOP OVER SYRIAN REFUGEE CRISIS & Christian groups break with GOP over Syrian refugees 18NOV15


THE Good Samaritan, Christ's lesson of how we are to treat strangers in our lands, refugees, those in need. American Christians, Evangelical, conservative, Catholic and Protestant, along with Jewish groups are condemning the calls from the political right wing of the republican party, including some of the republican presidential candidates to impose extreme limits on and / or  ban completely Syrian / Arab / Muslim refugees from the U.S. Religious groups and organizations and civil rights groups are uniting in their opposition to the anti-immigrant rhetoric from right wing politicians and organizations. It is good to see these groups and people of faith across the country challenge right wing republican politicians and pundits on this issue. We can only hope this eye opening will lead to religious scrutiny of their other policies, proposals and proclamations. From +Sojourners and +POLITICO .....

 CHRISTIAN GROUPS CENSURE GOP OVER SYRIAN REFUGEE CRISIS
By the Web Editors 11-18-2015
Christian groups are strongly condemning the anti-refugee rhetoric coming from top GOP leadership this week, reports POLITICO.
In the wake of the Paris attacks, many in the U.S. media speculated that one or more of the attackers had entered France as refugees from Syria, prompting state senators, governors, and even U.S. presidential candidates for the GOP to vow to close U.S. borders to Syrian refugees altogether.
These statements are being decried by Christians nationwide, including those with more historically conservative positions on immigration and foreign policy. According to POLITICO:
A push by Republican presidential candidates to ban Syrian refugees "does not reflect what we've been hearing from our constituencies, which are evangelical churches across the country," said Jenny Yang, vice president for advocacy at World Relief, an evangelical organization that helps resettle refugees. "Most of the people have been saying we want to continue to work with refugees, that what happened in Paris ... doesn’t reflect who refugees are."
...World Relief is one of nine groups, several of them faith-based, that help the U.S. resettle up to 70,000 refugees from around the world in the United States each year. Others include the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, Lutheran Immigration and Refugee Service, and the Church World Service. Many other faith-based groups, including evangelical Christian organizations, also perform aid work overseas specifically aimed at refugees fleeing conflicts.
Some advocates were particularly shocked when Republican presidential candidate Chris Christie, New Jersey's governor, said that the U.S. should bar Syrian orphaned toddlers if necessary.
"That was offensive. That was mean-spirited," said one advocate with a Christian group that resettles refugees. ..."It’s easy to pick on vulnerable refugees who have no voice."
- See more at: https://sojo.net/articles/christian-groups-censure-gop-over-syrian-refugee-crisis#sthash.Xsua2uA3.dpuf
By the Web Editors 11-18-2015

Christian groups are strongly condemning the anti-refugee rhetoric coming from top GOP leadership this week, reports POLITICO.
In the wake of the Paris attacks, many in the U.S. media speculated that one or more of the attackers had entered France as refugees from Syria, prompting state senators, governors, and even U.S. presidential candidates for the GOP to vow to close U.S. borders to Syrian refugees altogether.
These statements are being decried by Christians nationwide, including those with more historically conservative positions on immigration and foreign policy. According to POLITICO:
A push by Republican presidential candidates to ban Syrian refugees "does not reflect what we've been hearing from our constituencies, which are evangelical churches across the country," said Jenny Yang, vice president for advocacy at World Relief, an evangelical organization that helps resettle refugees. "Most of the people have been saying we want to continue to work with refugees, that what happened in Paris ... doesn’t reflect who refugees are."
...World Relief is one of nine groups, several of them faith-based, that help the U.S. resettle up to 70,000 refugees from around the world in the United States each year. Others include the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, Lutheran Immigration and Refugee Service, and the Church World Service. Many other faith-based groups, including evangelical Christian organizations, also perform aid work overseas specifically aimed at refugees fleeing conflicts.
Some advocates were particularly shocked when Republican presidential candidate Chris Christie, New Jersey's governor, said that the U.S. should bar Syrian orphaned toddlers if necessary.
"That was offensive. That was mean-spirited," said one advocate with a Christian group that resettles refugees. ..."It’s easy to pick on vulnerable refugees who have no voice."

Christian groups break with GOP over Syrian refugees

Evangelical Christians, as well as Christians more broadly, are a core group in the Republican electoral base and are among the most passionate advocates for aiding refugees.
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Republican presidential candidate, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee speaks at executive committee luncheon during the California GOP fall convention on Friday, Sept. 18, 2015 in Anaheim, Calif. (AP Photo/Chris Carlson)
Mike Huckabee along with other politicians, have worked to gain evangelical support, but may be threatening that by taking a stance against Syrian refugees. | AP Photo
Faith-based groups, who play a key role in resettling refugees to the United States, say they are dismayed by the wave of anti-refugee fervor set off by the Paris terrorist attacks and are urging supporters to contact elected officials on behalf of victims of the Syrian civil war.
Evangelical Christians, as well as Christians more broadly, are a core group in the Republican electoral base and are among the most passionate advocates for aiding refugees.
A push by Republican presidential candidates to ban Syrian refugees "does not reflect what we've been hearing from our constituencies, which are evangelical churches across the country," said Jenny Yang, vice president for advocacy at World Relief, an evangelical organization that helps resettle refugees. "Most of the people have been saying we want to continue to work with refugees, that what happened in Paris ... doesn’t reflect who refugees are."
Reports that a Syrian migrant may have played a role in last week's attacks in Paris, which killed around 130 people, have set off a GOP-led backlash over the Obama administration's plans to admit 10,000 Syrian refugees next year. More than half of U.S. governors have said they do not want Syrian refugees resettled in their states, while House Speaker Paul Ryan says he wants a vote this week on GOP-drafted legislation to halt the administration's plans.
World Relief is one of nine not-for-profit organizations, several of them faith-based, that help resettle up to 70,000 refugees from around the world in the United States each year. Others include the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, Lutheran Immigration and Refugee Service, and the Church World Service. Many other faith-based groups, including evangelical Christian organizations, also perform aid work overseas specifically aimed at refugees fleeing conflicts.
For Republican presidential contenders such as former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee and Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, who have been working hard at shoring up evangelical support in a crowded field, harsh words against refugees carries a risk of looking politically opportunistic instead of compassionate. Some advocates were particularly shocked when Republican presidential candidate Chris Christie, New Jersey's governor, said that the U.S. should bar Syrian orphaned toddlers if necessary.
"That was offensive. That was mean-spirited," said one advocate with a Christian group that resettles refugees. He added: "it’s disappointing because there have been Republican senators and presidents who have strongly supported this program over the years. There’s a proud tradition in the Republican Party of welcoming those who are fleeing persecution, and this takes the party in a negative direction. It’s easy to pick on vulnerable refugees who have no voice. But there are immigrant groups who have voting power that understand what is going on. They understand that it’s an anti-immigrant message."
Even though many on the Christian right have reservations about immigration overall, and may in particular be unhappy about people who illegally enter the United States, there's long been a recognition that refugees fall under a different category. The 11 million Syrians who have either fled the Arab country or are displaced within it are dodging terrorist groups such as the Islamic State or the barrel bombs of Syrian President Bashar Assad. Many are elderly, widowed or in need of medical care.
Some Republican candidates have suggested that only Syrians who are Christian be allowed on U.S. soil, something President Barack Obama has blasted as shameful. Yang said many evangelical Christians would also oppose such a religious test, especially because many are eager to share their faith with new arrivals.
The United States so far has admitted roughly 2,100 Syrians since the conflict in the country began in March 2011. To be allowed in, refugees have to undergo the most stringent security checks of any traveler heading to the United States, according to the State Department. Officials from the Obama administration on Tuesday began reaching out to the media and lawmakers in a bid to explain the screening process, which takes an average of 18-24 months.
Meanwhile, faith-based groups have also stepped up their advocacy efforts for refugees. The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops released a statement expressing distress over calls by elected officials to halt the resettlement program.
"These refugees are fleeing terror themselves — violence like we have witnessed in Paris," said the statement by Bishop Eusebio Elizondo, chairman of the conference's committee on migration. "Instead of using this tragedy to scapegoat all refugees, I call upon our public officials to work together to end the Syrian conflict peacefully so the close to 4 million Syrian refugees can return to their country and rebuild their homes. Until that goal is achieved, we must work with the world community to provide safe haven to vulnerable and deserving refugees who are simply attempting to survive."
Since the Paris attacks, World Relief has used a website to urge people to contact their governors to express their support for resettling Syrians. The Anti-Defamation League also has spoken out in favor of helping the Syrian refugees, noting that U.S. wariness to accept Jewish refugees during World War II is an example that must not be repeated.
Jonathan Greenblatt, the chief executive officer of the ADL and a former Obama aide, stressed that much remains unknown about the Paris attacks, including the exact nature of the allegation that a Syrian migrant was one of the eight or nine attackers. Even if a terrorist posed as a migrant to reach France, it's less likely that the U.S., with oceans to protect it and a stricter screening process, faces the same level of dangers, other advocates said.
"Republicans and Democrats have to tread very carefully here," Greenblatt said. "Faith-based voters are very attentive to these issues. They’re very sensitive to helping those in need."
Joanne Kelsey, assistant director for advocacy with Lutheran Immigration and Refugee Service, said she hoped that the sound and fury over refugees would soon be replaced with reason as Republican lawmakers and officials get more details about how the refugee program works.
"This is a very reactionary time," she said.
By the Web Editors 11-18-2015
Christian groups are strongly condemning the anti-refugee rhetoric coming from top GOP leadership this week, reports POLITICO.
In the wake of the Paris attacks, many in the U.S. media speculated that one or more of the attackers had entered France as refugees from Syria, prompting state senators, governors, and even U.S. presidential candidates for the GOP to vow to close U.S. borders to Syrian refugees altogether.
These statements are being decried by Christians nationwide, including those with more historically conservative positions on immigration and foreign policy. According to POLITICO:
A push by Republican presidential candidates to ban Syrian refugees "does not reflect what we've been hearing from our constituencies, which are evangelical churches across the country," said Jenny Yang, vice president for advocacy at World Relief, an evangelical organization that helps resettle refugees. "Most of the people have been saying we want to continue to work with refugees, that what happened in Paris ... doesn’t reflect who refugees are."
...World Relief is one of nine groups, several of them faith-based, that help the U.S. resettle up to 70,000 refugees from around the world in the United States each year. Others include the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, Lutheran Immigration and Refugee Service, and the Church World Service. Many other faith-based groups, including evangelical Christian organizations, also perform aid work overseas specifically aimed at refugees fleeing conflicts.
Some advocates were particularly shocked when Republican presidential candidate Chris Christie, New Jersey's governor, said that the U.S. should bar Syrian orphaned toddlers if necessary.
"That was offensive. That was mean-spirited," said one advocate with a Christian group that resettles refugees. ..."It’s easy to pick on vulnerable refugees who have no voice."
- See more at: https://sojo.net/articles/christian-groups-censure-gop-over-syrian-refugee-crisis#sthash.Xsua2uA3.dpuf

21 September 2015

White House's Pope Welcome Is 'Anti-Christian,' Huckabee Says & Conservatives outraged at gays on White House guest list for Pope Francis — Vatican? Not so much 21SEP15

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SO much hypocrisy in mike huckabee's "christian" tweets. Let's start with the hateful attitudes towards the President, Muslims and seemingly anyone not a right wing evangelical extremist. It is so very obvious he is using the Pope's visit to stoke the hatred of his flock. But even more glaring is the self righteous rants of thomas williams, ex adulterous catholic priest "Williams is a vulnerable messenger for such a critique: He was a priest of a secretive and influential religious order, the Legionaries of Christ, a longtime favorite of the Catholic right, which the Vatican has been trying to overhaul after revelations of lurid sex and money scandals.
He later left the priesthood to marry a woman — the daughter of Mary Ann Glendon, a conservative Catholic law professor and ambassador to the Holy See under President Bush — with whom he had secretly had a child while he was still a cleric." mike huckabee, thomas williams and all the others offended by the guest list for the arrival ceremony for Pope Francis would do well to remember the kind of people Jesus Christ met and ate with, served and blessed and healed. As Christ representative on earth (for the Catholic Church) I believe the Pope will welcome all who have gathered to greet him just as Christ himself welcomes all who come to Him. From +NPR  and +Religion News Service via  +The Salt Lake Tribune .....

The Flag of Vatican City flies next to American flags outside the West Wing of the White House on Monday ahead of Pope Francis' arrival.
The Flag of Vatican City flies next to American flags outside the West Wing of the White House on Monday ahead of Pope Francis' arrival.
Andrew Harnik/AP
President Obama is taking some heat over who's been invited to attend Pope Francis' large arrival ceremony at the White House this Wednesday. The list includes the first openly gay Episcopal bishop, an activist nun and a transgender activist — guests the Vatican reportedly objected to, according to the Wall Street Journal.
And the Obama administration also has critics on this side of the pond — the latest is presidential candidate Mike Huckabee. Here's what he tweeted Monday:
Classless decision by to transform visit into a politicized cattle call is an insult to millions of Catholics
. show of disrespect for is a new low for an admin that will go down as most anti-Christian in American history
Why is it that goes to extremes to accommodate Muslim terrorists but shows nothing but disdain for Christians?

 
White House spokesman Josh Earnest responded to the criticism Monday, saying "there is no theological test that was administered prior to giving out tickets to stand on the South Lawn Wednesday morning."
An estimated 15,000 invitations have been issued for the event, which will take place on the South Lawn of the White House. The Obama administration issued some invitations itself but also partnered with faith organizations including the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, the Archdiocese of Washington and Catholic Charities.
Earnest declined to respond directly to Huckabee's "anti-Christian" claim but said more generally that
"The president's approach is to welcome the pope warmly to the United States and to eagerly anticipate and participate in a discussion about their shared values.
"There is so much about what Pope Francis has to say that is inclusive and that reflects the kind of personal commitment that Pope Francis has to a wide range of issues, particularly when it comes to social justice. And his eloquent expression of those values has inspired millions people not just here in the United States but around the world, and that's why he's deserving of such a warm welcome, and the president is looking forward to the opportunity to sit down with Pope Francis for a second time and to talk about some of — many of those values that they have in common. ...
"There's plenty of opportunity for others to inject politics into this situation. It certainly is a protected constitutional right of theirs to do that. But that's not what the president is interested in."
Late last week, Earnest said the diversity of the large crowd "reflects the diversity of people in this country that are moved by the teachings and actions of this pope."
Separate from the welcoming event, the president will sit down with the pope and is expected to discuss a range of issues. Earnest said the meeting will not be about politics or specific policies but "rather about the kinds of values that both men have dedicated their lives to championing." President Obama, he said, has been impressed at Pope Francis' willingness "to take on some tough issues and to lay out his values."

Conservatives outraged at gays on White House guest list for Pope Francis — Vatican? Not so much

First Published    •    Updated 7 hours ago
Do we have our first full-blown diplomatic incident marring the carefully orchestrated visit of Pope Francis to the U.S.?
Did the Obama White House muff what should have been a slam-dunk in welcoming the pontiff to what is essentially a Washington photo-op?
It sure sounds that way, judging by the conservative outrage over White House invitations to a number of gay Catholics and LGBT advocates, an openly gay Episcopal bishop and a nun who is a prominent social-justice activist.
They are among the nearly 15,000 people taking part in a reception for Francis on the South Lawn on Wednesday before his private meeting with the president.
But these particular guests are "a rogue's gallery" of dissenters and their inclusion is "a stunning show of political indecorum" designed to "test just how far Pope Francis' notorious tolerance will go," Thomas Williams wrote last Wednesday on the right-wing news site Breitbart.com.
In his article, Williams — who left the priesthood to marry a woman he was having an affair with — described Sister Simone Campbell, one of the guests, as the "pro-abortion executive director of the social justice lobby Network."
Campbell, who is known as the organizer of the "Nuns on the Bus" tours, says she is "pro-life, not just pro-birth." She has also said that while her work does not focus on abortion issues per se, she believes that her mission to address economic injustice and promote health care for all Americans helps reduce the number of abortions.
Williams also pointed to the invitation to Aaron Ledesma, a 23-year-old gay Catholic who said he recently returned to Mass because he was inspired by Francis' message of inclusivity, and Episcopal Bishop Gene Robinson, the first openly gay bishop in the Anglican Communion, who's now a senior fellow at the Center for American Progress, a think tank with ties to the Democratic Party.
Williams is a vulnerable messenger for such a critique: He was a priest of a secretive and influential religious order, the Legionaries of Christ, a longtime favorite of the Catholic right, which the Vatican has been trying to overhaul after revelations of lurid sex and money scandals.
He later left the priesthood to marry a woman — the daughter of Mary Ann Glendon, a conservative Catholic law professor and ambassador to the Holy See under President Bush — with whom he had secretly had a child while he was still a cleric.
The Breitbart story was given further momentum when The Wall Street Journal ran an article Thursday saying "the Vatican has taken offense" at the guest list. The story cited an unnamed "senior Vatican official" as the source of the offense.
That really got the ball rolling, and in a cascade of tweets and blog posts, conservative Catholics and their allies voiced outrage at the "childish dig at the pope" and the "juvenile" and "deliberate insult" to American Catholics.
"(T)he White House wants to deliberately embarrass the Pope by sticking a thumb in his eye, and by sticking their noses into Catholic doctrine and teachings," Ed Morrissey wrote at HotAir.com.
Even the editorial page of The Washington Post got into the act on Saturday, writing that the Vatican "has raised objections" (a Vatican spokesman in fact noted that the Holy See does not, as a matter of course, comment on such matters) and criticizing the Obama administration for being willing to offend a kindly soul like Pope Francis while kowtowing to oppressive governments such as China, Saudi Arabia and Cuba.
The president would never invite dissidents to receptions for those countries' leaders, The Post said. (It did not mention that Francis is also being criticized for not meeting political dissidents and speaking out more forcefully on human rights while in Cuba.)
The Post also said inviting Campbell insulted Francis because she criticizes church policies on euthanasia; Campbell said in an email she has never raised the issue or criticized the Vatican over it.
"While I won't have the opportunity to meet Pope Francis directly, I'll be carrying in my heart many of the people that I've met on our Nuns on the Bus tours across this great country," said Campbell, who is currently on a bus tour with other nuns to promote Francis' teachings ahead of his visit.
"These are the people Pope Francis cares about," she wrote, referring to the struggling Americans she has met in various cities on the current trip. "These are the people we care about. Pope Francis knows the type of work we Catholic sisters do as we walk with the people, and we are grateful for his leadership bridging divides and transforming our political and economic systems."
On further review, maybe American conservatives and Obama critics are more upset than the pope they say they are defending.
While the guest list apparently irked the Vatican official who spoke to The Wall Street Journal, several other church officials in the Vatican and the U.S. said privately they didn't consider the issue a problem or worth coverage.
They said there are far more important issues to think about in connection with the pope's Sept. 22-27 trip to Washington, New York and Philadelphia, and they noted that the guests in question represented a handful of people out of many thousands.
Administration officials also said the White House worked with the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, the Archdiocese of Washington, Catholic Relief Services and Catholic Charities to distribute invitations to guests from around the country.
Leading evangelicals and representatives of other faith groups were also invited, and many guests were told they could bring friends of their choosing.
Jewish representatives will be absent because the event falls on Yom Kippur, the sacred Day of Atonement. That timing was the source of scattered complaints, though most Jewish leaders dismissed such grousing and said they understood scheduling was difficult. Francis is to formally meet with Jewish and interfaith leaders Friday in New York.
It seems unlikely that Francis would have a major problem with Campbell.
He has gone out of his way to praise the work of American nuns, whose social-justice outreach seems to mirror his own priorities, and he ended a Vatican investigation of U.S. sisters launched under his predecessor, Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI.
Moreover, Francis last week named Sister Maureen Kelleher, a founding member of Campbell's group Network, as a special delegate
The pope has also welcomed gay people to the Vatican and invited a transgender man from Spain to meet with him at his private residence. He has met with advocates for LGBT Catholics and appointed a German bishop to next month's Vatican synod who has suggested that the church bless gay couples.
Just last week, a New York priest who ministers to gay and lesbian Catholics revealed that after celebrating Mass with Francis at the pontiff's chapel in the Vatican, he gave the pope a DVD that tells stories about LGBT Catholics and their relationship to the church.
"This is from the gays and lesbians of the United States," the Rev. Gil Martinez, pastor at the Church of St. Paul the Apostle, told Francis, according to Martinez's interview with The Huffington Post.
In chatting in the pope's native Spanish about his upcoming U.S. visit, Francis told Martinez: "I would love to visit and talk to gay and lesbian people. And please tell the gays to pray for me, and I shall pray for them."
On Wednesday at the White House, the pope may be able to deliver that message in person — if he can find them in the crowd.
— Editor's note: David Gibson assisted Sister Simone Campbell in writing her 2014 memoir, "A Nun on the Bus: How All of Us Can Create Hope, Change, and Community."

30 August 2013

Mike Huckabee says if you cut out just four states, U.S. gun-homicide rate drops to Belgium's level 20AUG13

mike huckabee is a person of faith, a Christian. Yet it seems he can't stop telling lies, can't stop deceiving people, can't stop manipulating people's fears, prejudice and ignorance. How does that jive with his faith? That is between him and God. Here is his latest whopper, from PolitiFact.....
The Truth-O-Meter Says:
Huckabee

"America’s gun-related homicide rate … would be about the same as Belgium’s if you left out California, Illinois, D.C. and New Jersey, places with some of the strictest gun control laws in the U.S."

Mike Huckabee on Tuesday, August 20th, 2013 in a Facebook post

Mike Huckabee says if you cut out just four states, U.S. gun-homicide rate drops to Belgium's level

In a recent Facebook post, former Arkansas Republican Gov. Mike Huckabee used an unusual computation to play down the extent of firearm-related homicides in the United States.
"America’s gun-related homicide rate is nearly 20 times that of other high-income nations," Huckabee said in the Aug. 20 post. "But it would be about the same as Belgium’s if you left out California, Illinois, D.C. and New Jersey: places with some of the strictest gun control laws in the U.S."
For us, this reminded us of the time one of our sources, in a fact-check about a federal budget claim, joked that "I can meet my weight loss goals if I don't count my butt!"
Beyond Huckabee’s curious formula, though, we wondered: Is he right?
Huckabee did not respond to an inquiry for this story placed through his website. We did find that variations of this claim had made the rounds on conservative blogs in the weeks before Huckabee authored his post.
Let’s take a look at both ends of this claim.
The United States
For the U.S. part of the claim, we looked at FBI statistics, which break down data for firearm-related homicides for the nation as a whole as well as by state. Here’s a summary for 2010.

State
Firearm-related homicides
Population
Rate of firearm-related homicides per 100,000 population
California
1,257
37,338,198
3.36
District of Columbia
99
604,912
16.36
Illinois
364
12,841,980
2.83
New Jersey
246
8,799,593
2.79
Four states above
1,966
59,584,684
3.29
U.S. total
8,874
309,330,219
2.87
U.S. minus four states cited by Huckabee
6,908
249,745,535
2.77

So, removing the four states from the equation, as Huckabee did, doesn’t really budge the firearm-related homicide rate for the nation as a whole.
Also, it’s worth noting that the three states Huckabee cited are not among the states with the highest rates of firearm-related deaths. (Washington, D.C., is, but it is an exception because it isn’t a state, but rather a city without suburbs or rural areas.) Several states have firearm-related death rates above 4 per 100,000, including one with strict gun laws (Maryland) but others in which Second Amendment protections are strong (Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri and South Carolina).
Belgium
The most recent figures we could find for Belgium are included in an international data comparison published by the United Nations in 2011.
In 2004, Belgium reported a firearm-related homicide rate of 0.7 per 100,000, which is well below both the United States as a whole and the U.S.-minus-Huckabee’s-four-states figure.
Of course, the data for Belgium is older than the data we used for the United States. However, according to the U.N. compilation, more recent figures for other western European countries show rates even lower than Belgium’s. In 2009 and 2010, the only European countries to post a rate higher than 0.4 per 100,000 were Croatia, Finland, Macedonia, Portugal and Serbia. Every other European nation that reported data during that period was below that threshold. (The Washington Post has published this chart, based on the U.N. data, that compares the advanced industrialized nations by their firearm-related death rate; it shows the U.S. with a much higher rate than any such nation except for Mexico.)
So Huckabee’s comparison isn’t even close.
Our ruling
Huckabee said that "America’s gun-related homicide rate … would be about the same as Belgium’s if you left out California, Illinois, D.C. and New Jersey, places with some of the strictest gun control laws in the U.S."
Not only is this a strange way to analyze the numbers, but it’s not even correct on its own terms. Even after subtracting these four supposedly high-crime jurisdictions, the firearm-related homicide rate in the United States is still about four times higher than the rate in Belgium and the rest of Europe. We rate the claim Pants on Fire.
About this statement:

14 December 2012

Conservatives React to the Newtown Shooting 14DEZ12

IT is disturbing the level the extreme right wing is willing to lower themselves to at times of national tragedy. One has to wonder if they would have the same callous attitude if a member of their family was one of the victims. Here is just a sampling from Mother Jones....
As news broke of the Newtown school shooting, horror and grief transcended party lines. But for some conservatives, the shooting—and the ensuing calls for reassessing gun policies—also presented a political challenge. Some notable tweets:
Some suggested that the fix is not fewer guns, but more:
Ann Coulter:
Chris Loesch, husband of conservative commentator Dana Loesch:
In just the past four years, the NRA has helped pass weaker gun restrictions in 37 states, making the weapons easier to own, carry and conceal. At the same time, gun violence has increased in America.
Mike Huckabee, former Arkansas governor and GOP presidential candidate, told Fox News the shooting happened because "we removed God from our schools. (h/t ThinkProgress)
HUCKABEE: Ultimately, you can take away every gun in America and somebody will use a gun. When somebody has an intent to do incredible damage, they’re going to find a way to do it… People will want to pass new laws, but unless you change people’s hearts, they’re our transition to the pastor side. This is a heard issue, it’s not something, laws don’t change this kind of thing.
CAVUTO: How could God let this happen?
HUCKABEE: Well, you know, it’s an interesting thing. When we ask why there is violence in our schools, but we’ve systematically removed God from our schools. Should we be so surprised that schools have become a place for carnage because we’ve made it a place where we don’t want to talk about eternity, life, responsibility, accountability? That we’re not just going to have to be accountable to the police, if they catch us. But one day, we will stand in judgment before God. If we don’t believe that, we don’t fear that.
Bryan Fischer of the American Family Association took a similar tack on his radio show today, claiming that God has abandoned our schools because prayer is no longer allowed.
Blogger Mike Vanderboegh offered an elliptic Biblical reference on his blog, quoting a Wikipedia article about the ancient Ammonite god who demanded child sacrifices.
Conservative radio personality Steve Deace took to his Facebook page to complain about politicizing the tragedy while also blaming public schools.

Deace wasn't the only one who lashed out against people who speaking against gun laws. Michelle Malkin's aggregator account, Twitchy, offered this:
Rush Limbaugh struck a related note on his radio show:
And even as we speak, the Drive-By Media and the Democrats are attempting to politicize the issue to advance their own agenda. In this case, probably an assault on the Second Amendment again. I guarantee you that they are overturning everything they can in their quest to be able to blame this on Republicans. This, to them, is an opportunity.
(After the Aurora shootings, our colleague Adam Serwer weighed in on why national tragedies are political.) 
Brandon Darby, an one-time radical leftist turned FBI informant had yet another takeaway:
And the NRA? It has been silent since this tweet, just before news of the Newtown shooting broke.
Meanwhile, The Daily Caller's Tucker Carlson has moved on: