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11 July 2015
Donald Trump says Mexican government 'forces many bad people into our country' 9JUL15
donald trump is and has always been a liar and an idiot, here is more proof (as if it is needed). From +PolitiFact .....
"The Mexican government forces many bad people into our country."
— Donald Trump on Wednesday, July 8th, 2015 in an interview with NBC's Katy Tur
By Louis Jacobson on Thursday, July 9th, 2015 at 1:58 p.m.
Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump sits for an interview with NBC's Katy Tur on July 8, 2015.
A U.S. Customs and Border Protection Air and Marine agent on patrol near McAllen, Texas. (AP/Eric Gay)
In a July 8 interview with NBC, Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump didn’t ease up his rhetoric about Mexican immigration -- at all.
"The Mexican government forces many bad people into our country
because they're smart," he told interviewer Katy Tur. "They're smarter
than our leaders, and their negotiators are far better than what we
have, to a degree that you wouldn’t believe. They're forcing people into
our country. … And they are drug dealers and they are criminals of all
kinds. We are taking Mexico’s problems."
In the interview, Trump left no doubt that he believes the Mexican
government is taking an active role in pushing migrants into the United
States: He used the word "forcing" four times to describe what the
government was doing.
But is it really the government forcing Mexicans across the border,
rather than individual decisions to leave, either to seek employment or
to join family members in the United States?
A range of immigration experts told PolitiFact that there is no
evidence to support Trump’s claim. (The Mexican Embassy did not respond
to our inquiries, nor did a Trump representative.)
For evidence, let’s start with the Mexican Migration Project,
a bi-national research effort founded in 1982 to study Mexican
migration to the United States. Anthropologists, sociologists and other
experts with the project gather data, including field interviews with
migrants, that illuminate migration patterns.
The co-director of the project is Douglas Massey, a professor of
sociology and public policy at Princeton University. Based on more than
three decades of field research, Massey finds Trump’s assertion to be
flat wrong.
He pointed to findings from a paper he published in 2014 in the journal International Migration Review.
In the paper, he and his co-authors concluded that undocumented
migration from Mexico "was driven largely by U.S. labor demand and by
the existence of well-developed migrant networks that provided migrants
with access to U.S. labor markets despite a rising enforcement effort.
The taking of additional trips is likewise tied to U.S. labor demand and
access to migrant networks, as well as the number of U.S. trips a
migrant has accumulated over his or her career."
What about Mexican government efforts to push migrants into the United States? Nonexistent, Massey told PolitiFact.
"Mexico has never had a policy of pushing migrants toward the United
States, much less ‘forcing many bad people into our country,’ " Massey
said. "Mexican migration is tied to social and economic circumstances on
both sides of the border."
Other experts sided with Massey.
"Immigrants come to work or to join family," said Jeffrey Passel, a
senior demographer with the Pew Research Center’s Hispanic Trends
Project. "And no, the Mexican government doesn’t force anyone to leave."
"No, the Mexican government doesn't force anyone to move here
illegally, though it certainly doesn't object," added Mark Krikorian,
executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies, a group that
favors low levels of immigration.
Tom Smith, a demographer at the University of Chicago, drew a
contrast with one historical example in which a government did take a
role in pushing certain people to emigrate to the United States -- the Mariel boatlift from Cuba in 1980.
"While most immigrants were simply part of the general Cuban
population of people wanting to emigrate, it appears that the Cuban
government did intentionally send a disproportionate number of those
they deemed to be undesirables, including prisoners and other
institutionalized groups," Smith said.
But there is no such evidence that the same thing has happened in Mexico, he added.
About the closest support for Trump’s claim that we could find is the
argument that the Mexican government’s failure to provide strong
economic growth and restrain drug violence has been a factor in
convincing people to leave the country and come to the United States.
Still, it’s not accurate to equate the Mexican government’s inability to
accomplish these goals and the idea that the government is forcing
people to leave.
It’s also worth noting that migration from Mexico to the United
States has been declining in recent years. This is due to demographic
factors more than anything else, Massey said.
Trump "does not seem to have gotten the memo, but undocumented
migration stopped in 2008 and has been zero or negative since -- not
because the economic fundamentals have changed, but because the
fertility rate dropped from 6.7 births per woman in 1970 to 2.2 births
today, bringing about an aging of the population," Massey said. "People
initiate migration between the ages of 18 and 30, and if they don't
migrate then, they are unlikely ever to migrate."
In other words, Massey said, the number of people in the age category
most conducive to immigration is dropping, so immigration is dropping
as well. Our ruling
Trump said "the Mexican government forces many bad people into our
country." Setting aside the question of whether Mexicans who have come
to the United States are "bad" or not, there is no evidence of any
Mexican policy that pushes people out of Mexico and into the United
States. As has been the case for decades, a combination of economic and
family factors accounts for most of the migration from Mexico to the
United States. We rate the claim Pants on Fire.