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16 January 2015
Widely shared meme oversimplifies Joe Barton's 2009 comment on wind energy, climate change 13JAN15
rep joe barton r tb TX is an idiot, but it not right for his opponents to spread falsehoods about him in an attempt to gain support for their position, in this case wind energy and addressing climate change. There is no need to make things up to prove how ignorant rep barton is, he does that well enough on his own. From +PolitiFact .....
Says. Rep. Joe Barton,
R-Texas, once said, "Wind is a finite resource and harnessing it would
slow the winds down, which would cause the temperature to go up."
— Facebook posts on Tuesday, January 13th, 2015 in a meme on social media
Widely shared meme oversimplifies Joe Barton's 2009 comment on wind energy, climate change
By Louis Jacobson on Thursday, January 15th, 2015 at 11:15 a.m.
Wind turbines at the Harvest Wind Farm in Oliver Township, Mich. (Associated Press)
A reader asked us to check this meme circulating on social media, featuring Rep. Joe Barton, R-Texas.
Rep. Joe Barton, R-Texas, is not popular among
environmentalists. A former chairman of the powerful House Energy and
Commerce Committee, Barton is a staunch advocate for fossil fuels and expressed skepticism about the role of manmade carbon emissions in climate change.
Barton’s critics like to paint him as blindly supportive of Big Oil
and as anti-science. Exhibit A is a series of social media memes that
mock him for suggesting that wind power can actually intensify global
warming.
The most extreme version
we found said Barton had claimed that "wind power would stop the Earth
from rotating." That’s clearly not true, but it’s also not clear that
this claim was meant to be taken seriously. Instead, we decided to check
a less outrageous -- and more common -- meme mocking Barton.
A reader recently sent us a meme
featuring a picture of Barton alongside the quotation, "Wind is a
finite resource and harnessing it would slow the winds down which would
cause the temperature to go up." The meme’s creator went on to comment,
"The only thing more stupid than this idiot heading the House-Senate
energy conf(erence) is Michelle Bachmann's stint on the House
'Intelligence' Committee!" (Michele Bachmann's name is misspelled.)
Ultimately, we concluded that Barton’s words were significantly altered. What did Barton actually say?
As it turns out, the comments from the meme we’re checking stem from a
congressional hearing held almost six years ago, on Feb. 26, 2009.
As part of a lengthy question-and-answer session, Barton pressed
witnesses on some of the risks of shifting the nation’s energy portfolio
from fossil fuels to renewable sources. In one exchange, Barton referred to a paper by Jay Apt,
director of the Carnegie Mellon Electricity Industry Center and a
professor of technology at the Tepper School of Business. In turn, Apt’s
paper relied on research in an earlier paper by David W. Keith, currently a professor of applied physics and public policy at Harvard University.
Barton’s off-the-cuff comments are somewhat meandering, but the
general gist of what he said was to raise questions about some of the
downsides of using wind to generate electricity. "I am going to read a paragraph which is, if true, very ironic.
And this is from Dr. Apt’s paper, and I quote: ‘Wind energy is a finite
resource. At large scale, slowing down the wind by using its energy to
turn turbines has environmental consequences. A group of researchers at
Princeton University … found that wind farms may change the mixing of
air near the surface, drying the soil near the site. At planetary
scales, David Keith, who was then at Carnegie Mellon, and coworkers
found that if wind supplied 10 percent of expected global electricity
demand in 2100 … the resulting change in the earth’s atmospheric energy
might cause some regions of the world to experience temperature change
of approximately 1 degree Centigrade.’ … "Now, wind is God’s way of balancing heat. Wind is the way you
shift heat from areas where it is hotter to areas where it is cooler.
That is what wind is. Wouldn’t it be ironic if in the interest of global
warming we mandated massive switches to energy, which is a finite
resource, which slows the winds down, which causes the temperature to go
up? Now, I am not saying that is going to happen, Mr. Chairman, but
that is definitely something on the massive scale. I mean, it does make
some sense. You stop something. You can’t transfer that heat and the
heat goes up. It is just something to think about."
Reading the full text shows that the meme glossed over some important nuances, perhaps by relying on a brief summation published by Time magazine in 2010.
First, even though the meme used quotation marks to frame the comment
as a single, unified quote, it’s actually a stitched-together mix of
several snippets from Barton’s remarks.
Second, the meme ignores that when Barton said that "wind is a finite resource," he was explicitly quoting Apt’s paper, rather than saying that was his personal belief.
Third, the meme overlooks that when Barton supposedly said that
harnessing the wind "would slow the winds down, which would cause the
temperature to go up," he was actually asking the witness a question
rather than stating his view.
And fourth, the meme ignores that Barton said in the same exchange,
"Now, I am not saying that is going to happen, Mr. Chairman." In other
words, what he was doing was posing a scenario to be discussed further.
So, while Barton’s comments clearly show an openness to the ideas he
addressed, the meme is off-base in suggesting that Barton was stating
his own opinion.
For the record, Barton’s spokesman, Sean Brown, told PolitiFact that
the congressman "believes in an all-of-the-above energy plan that
includes wind and solar power but also doesn’t ignore traditional
sources of energy like coal or natural gas." Is there any credibility to the idea that wind energy might contribute to global warming?
So Barton didn’t say what the meme said he did. But what about the
substance of the claim -- that wind turbines can exacerbate global
warming?
The idea isn’t entirely out of left field, but it’s a lot more complicated than it seems on the surface.
Let’s start with what was known at the time Barton made his comment six years ago. The paper ultimately referenced by Barton -- the one that Keith coauthored
-- found some intriguing interactions between wind turbines and
climate, namely that "very large amounts of wind power" can produce
changes to climate "at continental scales."
However, the authors leavened this assessment with a more optimistic
note -- that such changes in climate disappear at the global level, and
that, on balance, using wind power rather than fossil fuels reduces
climate change, rather than exacerbating it.
Keith, who didn’t respond to an inquiry from PolitiFact, and his
coauthors also emphasized that what negative impacts emerged from
wind-turbine use could be eased, fairly economically, by better turbine
design and placement.
Subsequent research has bolstered this conclusion.
A 2012 study that used satellite data for west-central Texas, published in Nature Climate Change and
co-authored by Liming Zhou of the State University of New York at
Albany, found a "significant warming trend" of up to 1.3 degrees
Fahrenheit per decade over wind farms, compared to nearby regions that
didn’t have wind farms. However, Zhou told the Daily Telegraph that the climatic changes from wind farms paled when compared to the impact of manmade global warming.
And Mark Z. Jacobson, a Stanford University professor of civil and environmental engineering, told PolitiFact that a 2012 paper
he coauthored found that the impact of large arrays of wind turbines
would be to cool climate -- not warm it. "That paper is the most
detailed to date," Jacobson said.
Jacobson agreed that even installing enough wind-power capacity to
power "half the world" would have "small" global impacts on climate,
even though the impacts locally could be more significant. If you weigh
the negatives of wind power against the negatives of fossil-fuel use, he
added, "there is only a net benefit of switching to wind." Our ruling
A social media meme says Barton once said, "Wind is a finite resource
and harnessing it would slow the winds down which would cause the
temperature to go up."
Barton raised that possibility while questioning a witness during a
2009 congressional hearing, but contrary to the meme’s implication, he
did not say that it was his personal belief. Rather, the meme makes fun
of Barton by stitching together parts of his comments in a way that is
misleading.
The statement contains some element of truth but ignores critical
facts that would give a different impression, so we rate it Mostly
False.
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