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17 October 2013

GOP surrender roundup: Sadness, woe and conservative civil war 16OKT13

FROM Daily Kos, a brief synopsis of the ongoing civil war in the gop between Republicans, repiglicans and tea-baggers. They, and all of us, wold do well to consider these words 
 "We must learn to live together as brothers [and sisters] or perish together as fools."
-Martin Luther King, Jr....
 
Clowns
Oh wait, they're already here ...
John Boehner may have decided that he'd rather not plunge the United States into default quite just yet, but the true believers? They're mad. Really, really mad. A roundup of arsonist reactions:
Speaker Pelosi Part 2:  Opening Jan 5. 2015
@DRUDGE
  • Rush Limbaugh:
    Rush Limbaugh on Wednesday blasted the Republican Party as “irrelevant” and responsible for “creating one of the greatest political disasters” he’s ever seen. “I was trying to think earlier today, if ever in my life I could remember any major political party being so irrelevant,” the conservative radio host said on his show, according to a transcript. “I have never seen it. I have never seen a major political party simply occupy placeholders, as the Republican Party is doing.”
    Rush says the party still refuses to offer "serious opposition" to Obama, again claiming that this is because Obama is black.
  • Hardliner and actual CNN contributor Erick Erickson, or maybe he's not there anymore because who the hell watches CNN these days:
    I am tired of funding Republicans who campaign against Obamacare then refuse to fight. It’s time to find a new batch of Republicans to actually practice what the current crop preaches.
  • The Tea Party Nation is very, very sad:
    Barack Obama demanded unconditional surrender from the Republican Party. He pretty much got it. […] In short, the GOP got nothing from their fight. But then again, McConnell, Boehner and the GOP establishment never tried.
  • As are a great many of the arsonists themselves, lighters still in hand:
    Must be kidding. After 15 days and no proposal by Obama or Reid, GOP leadership may pass Democratic deal for them? http://t.co/...
    @CongHuelskamp
  • FreedomWorks and Club For Growth are frothing and foaming.
    FreedomWorks: "The line separating the Democrats and the Republican establishment is fading- it might have disappeared today."
    @philipaklein
  • But House conservatives like Raul Labrador know what the real problem with their plan was. It's the fault of that damn meddling media for saying House Republicans wanted to repeal Obamacare instead of calmly explaining that the Republicans merely wanted to reasonably exchange defunding or delaying the law in exchange for allowing the federal government to continue to function. Stop painting us as unreasonable!
    "We never asked for a full repeal of Obamacare because we can't get that," he said. "We have voted on a full repeal of Obamacare that the Senate has rejected every single time. But what we were asking for, our position from the beginning, was exchanging a one-year CR for a one-year delay of Obamacare. That was something we thought both sides were giving on something."
Much more, below the fold.
  • It wouldn't be a conservative civil war if the other side wasn't returning fire, and there's been plenty of that. For their part, the Houston Chronicle repudiated their own endorsement of Ted Cruz, apparently flummoxed that Cruz's brand of hardline far-right conservatism did not transform itself into something less insane once he gained office:
    When we endorsed Ted Cruz in last November's general election, we did so with many reservations and at least one specific recommendation - that he follow Hutchison's example in his conduct as a senator. Obviously, he has not done so. Cruz has been part of the problem in specific situations where Hutchison would have been part of the solution.
  • And when you've lost Grover Norquist, you've lost the last thread tying yourself to supposed "fiscal" conservatism. Not that Norquist has any interest in tying himself to conservatism these days either, so ragged has the brand become:
    “It’d be a good idea if they stopped referring to other Republicans as Hitler appeasers because they opposed the strategy they put forward which failed,” Norquist says. “I think if you make a mistake as big as what they did, you owe your fellow senators and congressmen a big apology — and your constituents, as well, because nothing they did advanced the cause of repealing or dismantling Obamacare.” […] “These are the people who said, ‘Plan: Step One, Invade Iraq. Step Two, It turns into Kansas,’” Norquist says. “Could I ask if there’s anything in between Step One and Step Two? ‘Oh ye of little faith.’”
  • For his part, House Speaker John Boehner may yet keep his position after all of this—despite no apparent plan, ability to execute that plan, ability to hold his caucus in line, ability to count, ability to negotiate, ability to clearly articulate what exactly the damn demands were besides opening up a unicorn brothel for conservative House members. The general feeling among the arsonists is that well, at least he let them have a good solid go at it:
    Speaking at an event with fellow conservatives, Labrador said he was “really proud” of Boehner’s handling of the fiscal crisis and that, over the last two-and-a-half weeks, “he has been the kind of Speaker I’ve been looking for for the last two-and-a-half years.” […] Rep. Mark Meadows (R-N.C.) told The Hill, "conservatives feel like he's fought the good fight .... You can quote me on that."
  • But perhaps the most (ahem) "interesting" pro-Boehner premise paints him as a true genius who did all of this because well that was the plan all along you see.
    By allowing Ted Cruz to shut down the government, and by accepting the strategic advice of the idiots at Heritage Action, Boehner taught the rank and file a lesson that they probably won’t forget any time soon.  Following the advice of those bozos will get you nowhere fast.
    Yes. He only hurled himself down the stairwell to teach all you other chumps what happens when you do that. A brilliant plan indeed.
As for how this will all pan out? Who knows. Perhaps true conservatives will split off into a third party. Perhaps true conservatives will lock themselves in the wardrobe, refusing to come out until Narnia shows itself. Perhaps true conservatism will yet again be redefined in order to pretend this whole sorry episode never took place. Once Obama is out of office, that is. In the meantime, we'll be doing all of this all over again, from scratch, in just a few short months. That's  just how America rolls now, baby.
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@KagroX

Originally posted to Hunter on Wed Oct 16, 2013 at 03:06 PM PDT.

Also republished by Daily Kos

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/10/16/1248016/-GOP-surrender-roundup-Sadness-woe-and-conservative-civil-war?detail=action 

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